646: How We’re Using Claude Code To Get Back 30 Hours A Week

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Welcome back to the podcast, the show where I cover all the latest strategies and current events related to e-commerce and online business. In this episode, Tony and I dig into Claude Code, the tool that’s saving us dozens of hours a week and completely changing how we run our businesses. We share our practical experiences with the tool, what we’re both using it for, and how it can save time with your business and personal life as well. But before we begin, I just wanted to take a second to mention that I have a free e-commerce community that I’m incredibly proud of and would love for you to be a part of.

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It is a place where real sellers come together to share wins, troubleshoot problems, and support each other through the ups and downs of building an online business. You can join completely free at mywifequitterjob.com slash community, and I would love to see you there. That’s mywifequitterjob.com slash community. Now onto the show.

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Welcome back to the My Wife Quitter Job podcast. Today we’re going to talk about a tool that both Tony and I are using that has basically changed my life forever. In fact, uh it’s so good that I feel like I’m getting dumber every week. And that tool is Cloud Code, obviously. You think you’re getting dumber? I am because I’m using my brain less. Interesting. You don’t feel that way? No, I feel the absolute opposite. Oh, okay. Well,

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I mean, why don’t we start with all the different use cases? The reason why I’m feeling dumber is, I’ll give you an example. So I’m using Cloud Code, I trained it to talk like me, to write like me. So now when I want to come up with a YouTube script, I tell it what I want, I tell it what stories I want to put in it, and then it outputs a script that’s like 85 % of the way there. So I don’t have to write anything anymore. Before, I used to have to use my brain to figure out

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you know, what words to put together and whatnot. But it’s all right there in a Markdown file in Cloud Code. OK, so I feel the opposite in that I feel like because I’m not like a computer person. I mean, I work on a computer, but I’m not like a techie computer person that figuring out all the things that it can do and learning how to put all the information in and, you know.

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connect everything. Like to me, I’m like constantly learning how to do all this. And so I actually feel like, oh, I’m learning so much more. I’m also not using it to write as much as I am to do everything else. So that’s probably the other component. Right. I’m using it more in the analytics. And basically for me, it’s like I hate to say this publicly, I feel like I’ve gotten my life back. I feel like I’ve gained like 30 hours a week in time. Don’t be giving me crap to do because I just said that. So.

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Well, I mean, here’s the problem. I feel like it saved me a lot of time, too, but it’s also made me more stressed because now I can do more. I’m trying to fill up my schedule with, you know, all the stuff that I couldn’t do before. Yeah, but doesn’t it feel good that you’re actually getting stuff done? Well, I mean, I always used to get stuff done, but now, like, there’s more on the plate. OK, right. Because of that, which stresses me. And then there’s a new tool coming out every single week. Yeah, I got to learn. So.

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I mean, I’m having a great time. Don’t get me wrong. I’m having the best time. But on the flip side, I’m feeling just stressed trying to keep up with everything. Yeah. OK, that’s fair. I’m not to that point yet. I’m not stressed out about it. I mean, I’m in the euphoria. What is it? The five stages of Claude code? I’m in euphoria. Yeah, so it’s it’s greatly saved my life in terms of social media optimization. So like I said, that YouTube video

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I tell it what topic I want. It gives me an outline. I don’t even type anymore. I just verbally tell it, hey, this is the story I want to use for this section, this section, this section, this section. It drafts something. Usually it’s not clear on certain things. It asks me for more numbers. And so I give it numbers. And the outcomes is like beautiful script that’s been kicking ass on my channel, actually.

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Okay, so let’s start with this because I feel like the people listening are probably a wide variety of skill set. So for a long time, didn’t, I wouldn’t say a long time, a long time in AI years, like two days, I did not know that like Claude and Claude code and Claude co-work were like three different things. I thought it was all the same. So I didn’t really understand. So I’ve been using Claude for a long time. I mean, also in AI years, six months, whatever. uh

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I was a big chat GPT-er, like that was my uh go-to. And then what actually moved me to Claude was chat GPT is really bad with numbers, even with spreadsheets, I have found. I feel like that chat doesn’t always get the formulas right. I feel like it often hallucinates and makes up numbers. And so in sort of a desperation, I started moving some of the stuff that I was doing in chat to Claude as far as creating a lot of the data organization.

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And I found that Claude was superior. And maybe it’s not that Claude math’s any better, but the formulas are always better. And so, and I always check those things. I still don’t like fully trust it to do that kind of stuff. I like to double check the work, but that’s how I moved into like, I kind of shifted from chat to Claude for all of the analytics and data stuff that I was doing. And so I was doing that very happily, living my best life. And then you were like, oh, are you using Claude code? And I was like, yeah.

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And you’re like on your computer. I was like, yeah. And you’re you’re like, I don’t think you are. I don’t remember that conversation, but because I was like, yeah, absolutely. That’s what I’m doing. And then, you know, a little Internet rabbit hole that night. And I was like, oh, I’m not using cloud code. I was just using Claude and inputting everything into Claude, which I would say is like the baby step way. Right. So I was using.

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opening up Claude, typing into your browser, and then I would have exported, let’s just use Klaviyo as an example, I would have exported, like, here’s all my flows from April, here’s all my campaigns from April, um let’s evaluate, let’s look for red flags, let’s look for winners, that kind of thing. And it would spit out very nice spreadsheets for me um that I could use to make decisions, take next steps, and that kind of thing. Yeah, so most people are probably using

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I mean, the next step in the evolution is Cloud Cowork. Although I always recommend everyone just skip that step. I would skip it too. I made the mistake of going to Cloud Cowork. I do think it has some interesting features, but I feel like everything that it does, you can do in Cloud Code. Oh, you can. Cloud Code is way more versatile. Yeah. So skip Cowork. um then good. then you were like, you have to install it on your computer. And have you seen Zoolander?

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Of course. That’s your favorite movie. It is my favorite movie. So there’s a scene where they’re trying to get the hard drive that has all the incriminating evidence and they’re in the office and there’s like an old eMac and they’re like, it’s in the computer and they start to like bang on the computer to like break it open to get what’s in the computer, not realizing like what. So that’s often how I feel when I talk to you. I’m like, it’s in the computer. Right. So anyway, ah

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So then I was like, OK, yeah, I got to do Claude code. I’m going to be honest, I did not even know. I have a Mac, several Macs, and I was like a terminal. Like what the heck is a terminal and where do I find it? And here’s the good news for all of the people like me out there. I just opened up Claude and I was like, hey, I want to install Claude code. Will you walk me through it step by step? And it did. But then I was worried I was going to run out of my like credits.

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So then I opened ChatGPT and I was like, can you help me install Cloud Code? And it can do that as well for you. So if you have to like, you know, manage your credits, ChatGPT will also tell you how to install Cloud Code. That’s really funny actually. I’m on the max plan now, so I never run out of credits. I’m about to be, I’m about to upgrade. But this was, know, two weeks ago when it was like, you know, 100 years ago in AI years.

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One thing it does make me sad though, I think is, you know, all the skills that I’ve built up over the years, computer skills, it’s becoming less and less valuable now. Yes. And ironically, I think the skill that’s the most powerful is being able to just articulate what you want. Yes. Right. And so in a way, like I’m happy that I’m like much more productive, but I’m kind of sad that I feel like my skills that I’ve developed for the last, you know, 30 years or so longer than that are just kind of becoming less useful. And I see it.

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In industry, I’m in the Silicon Valley. lot of my friends, don’t write any code. All they do is they write specs now. Yeah. And I will say, though, like having that knowledge, because here’s here’s one way that I’m using it is that I’m having it build landing pages, like really pretty landing pages with HTML that I can just drop into WordPress. And when I don’t like something, how it looks on the like when I get it in the landing page and I don’t like how it looks, I can fix it.

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Right. I can go into the HTML and fix it. I know enough right from blogging from all these years. So I don’t think it’s totally wasted because I think having the skills that you have, you’re probably a much better prompter than most people. You’re much better at explaining. It’s kind of like watching Dana Michelle give video prompts, right, where she knows exactly how to say things to get the look that she wants. ah Now, well, I think that will probably also get

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swallowed up at some point, yeah, probably, right? Like it’ll just get better and better. But for now, I do think that’s an advantage that you have. Yeah, yeah. It’s like a slowly fading. I don’t know. Maybe I shouldn’t think that way. I just wanted to take a moment to tell you about a free resource that I offer on my website that you may not be aware of. If you are interested in starting your own online store, I put together a comprehensive six day mini course on how to get started in e-commerce that you should all check out.

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It contains both video and text-based tutorials that go over the entire process of finding products to sell all the way to getting your first sales online. Now this course is free and can be attained at mywifequitterjob.com slash free. Just sign up right there on the front page via email and I’ll send you the course right away. Once again, that’s mywifequitterjob.com slash free. Now back to the show. But I was chatting with my buddy who’s an engineer and he’s like,

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You know, I’ve coded for like the last 35 years, but now that we’re using this new paradigm for coding, like I found that I’m not that good at it. Cause he’s not good at the articulation part where it’s like a project manager or product person is doing a much better job. Cause that’s what they’re trained for. So anyway, that’s just an aside. should let’s get into the guts. And the goal of today’s episode is to get everyone really excited to actually try it. And I’ve.

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been giving a lot of Cloud Code lessons in my class. And there’s been several lessons uh in profitable audience too, which is the course that we run. And I want to get everyone excited about it because I just had a one-on-one yesterday and I had just given this really awesome lesson on how to use Cloud Code to automate your entire meta ads creative generation. And literally you just have Cloud Code generate all the videos based on your brand. And then it actually sends it off to a tool that makes the videos for you. Right?

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And every it it the whole class loved it. And actually, there’s a YouTube video that I just recently put out on that, too. And it’s it’s been it’s gotten a lot of positive feedback. But then when I had that one on one yesterday and I was, hey, did you enjoy that office hours? It’s like, oh, yeah, I thought it was amazing. I was like, well, did you try it yet? He’s like, no, I’m a little intimidated by cloud code. And so were you intimidated by cloud code? Yeah, I literally had to type in where is my terminal? And then it gets better.

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I was working on something and it told me that I had to like to make sure it all worked. had to. Oh, I was doing the integration with Kit. And in order to like the final step was to shut everything down and reopen it. Right. um And I was like, so I shut it down. I was like, I don’t even know where it is. Like, how do I find it? Like, where do I get like, how do I get there again? Like, I don’t even know. ah OK, it’s interesting hearing it from your perspective from a regular person. Well, no, I mean, I think Claude Code

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is like the worst name for a tool ever. Code should not be in that name because it has nothing to do with code. No, it doesn’t. Which I thought it did. gives you access to your computer. That’s it. Yes. And I think and I don’t I don’t want to stereotype Mac users, but I think one of the reasons why people love Macs in the Mac world, right? Like everything’s integrated like it’s something on my iPad. It’s also on my computer. It’s also on my phone. It’s also on my laptop. You know, all this integration.

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And also we don’t have to know how to do anything very well, right? Because Mac just like serves it up to you on a platter. So you don’t really have to know any of the technical and in general Mac computers just work. And I know that’s a huge, I know all the Kevins are gonna come at me. But like one of the reasons why I think people gravitate towards a Mac is because you don’t have to deal with a lot of the tech side of computing, right? You turn your Mac on, everything installs, it’s all beautiful and perfect.

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And so then when all of a sudden it’s like open your terminal, I’m like, don’t even like terminal. What is that? Like, how do I even find that? So once again, I’m back in Claude. Hey, Claude, I have a Mac. Where’s my terminal? How do I find it? How do I open it? Right. ah The cool thing is it will literally walk you through it step by step. So even if if you’re at where I and I’m also like, I know I can figure this out. It’s just something I haven’t done before. But I think the nice thing is if you get stuck,

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Literally, can just like I there was a point I was because I was setting up all this stuff last week and I was like, I don’t understand the difference between X and Y. Right. And so Claude explained it to me and I was like, nope, I need more information. Nope. I need pictures like and I just kept having it broken down until finally I was like, oh, I get it. Like this makes sense to me. So that’s the thing that I think is awesome is that like if you don’t fully understand what you’re doing right away, you can get there pretty quickly.

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Yeah, no, I mean, it’s been like, think it’s I’ve learned so much because of that. Because normally, I think it’s human nature to to be afraid to ask questions because you don’t want to come across as dumb. Yes. Like among your peers. so, know, it happens to me. Like, I don’t want to ask like a dumb question to somebody. So now I can ask AI all those dumb questions. And it never tells you you’re dumb. Exactly. It never tells you. In fact, it makes me it inflates my ego, too.

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It actually there was a, you know, there was a study about that though, right? Yeah. It’s called AI psychosis or something. Yes. So don’t lie to me, Claude. Don’t lie to me. Tell me the truth. So, yeah. So anyway, I, I would say for someone who’s just starting out and you’re already using like Claude or chat, GBT, it’s, time to take the next step.

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Yes. And because you will find that like I was already so excited about just like the stuff that I could do in AI that was making things a lot easier for me and saving me time. This is like a next level time saver. So let’s talk about how it saved time. Yeah. OK. So my favorite one is something I literally just did last week, which is I created an email spam like filter outer and a reply like a reply generator.

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Okay. So now in the morning, like just kind of all automatically, it runs this thing on my computer that goes through all of my gorgeous tickets, marks them the ones that are spam, and just puts them in a separate folder for deletion. I usually review it obviously before it gets deleted. Yeah. And then it puts up drafts for the emails that I need to respond to. And that part is still a work in progress because there’s so many different topics that you have to train it, right? Yeah. How to respond but the spam thing is like,

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save my life. Because then we get so much urine my gorgeous right? You see how much it’s terrible. It’s because you told me that I like can you respond to this person? I was like, I don’t even see that email. And then when I start I waited through like 30 spam emails and found it buried. Yeah, so yeah, that’s fair by spam. mean, like solicitations. Yeah, not like outright spam, although we do get those two. Yeah, but people who wants to who want to like sponsor the channel or something. It’s just endless. Yeah.

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So my favorite one right now, I have a ton. I’m to the point where I think we joke about this like, I hate that I have to work because I can’t do more things with AI. It’s really annoying me that I have other things I have to do. um So for one of my clients, we use an editorial calendar, which is basically just a glorified spreadsheet in Google Sheets.

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And it’s categorized by the month and then everything that’s happening that month, promotion, events, whatever goes into the editorial calendar. Now, any time it’s like a big promotion, it also needs a folder in Google Drive. And that folder contains like a marketing brief, a launch plan, graphics, whatever, right? It has all these components. Well, that’s like someone’s job, right? Now, this is where we’re going to get a little bit dicey because this is something that we’re paying somebody to do, right? Create these folders in Google Drive.

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What a dumb job, right? Like anybody can do it. To me, if that was part of my job, I would be very miserable because it’s like you’re just folder creating. So basically I wrote, well, Claude code helped me write a script, which you could do this without Claude code, honestly, but if you don’t really know how to do it, then it becomes a lot tougher, right? So I was like, hey, I want you to create me a script.

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that I can, whenever I type something into this cell in the editorial calendar, it automatically populates a folder in Google Drive. This is the naming convention. And that way, whenever we create, we add something to the editorial calendar, everything’s already ready to go on the drive side for the team, right? um And then you add it into your Google extensions. This becomes more difficult. If it’s a team drive, you can still do it, but it’s not quite as easy. My excitement got screeched to a halt.

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initially because I was like, is this a working? But to me, that’s like a massive time saver, right? Because now everything just gets auto populated once you add it to the calendar. so I mean, you’re talking about probably saving two to three manpower hours a week just from that simple little. And could you do this without cloud code? Yeah, you could do all this stuff without cloud code, but you one have to know exactly how to do it. And then two, you have to have the time to implement it.

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Yeah, usually I’m pretty anal about like looking at the code or whatever it does. But like I’ve gotten to the point now where just do it. I don’t look at anything. I just is it working? If it’s not working, I just tell it what’s not working and then it figures it out and then it’s working. Yeah. And I don’t look at anything. Yeah. That’s another reason why my skills I think are deteriorating. Like my coding skills. Yeah. Like back in the day, I used to, you know, know what I was doing.

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Yeah, for everything. And now the less you use it, that that muscle is just getting weaker. OK, you want to know another cheat code? So if you’re working in something in cloud code and you’re like, this is really cool, I want to teach it to people, it can create a canva deck for you. Oh, what you did like it’ll build the deck in Canva. Like with everything that you’re doing, we’ll make a video tutorial like a loom. That’d be pretty sweet. I haven’t tried. Well, has that feature actually now? Yeah. uh

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It’s part of notebook LLM, I think. Like you give it something, it’ll create a presentation, a video presentation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s that’s that’s one I just discovered like two days ago. I’ll tell you my absolute favorite one, though, right now, because this is one that for me is very overwhelming since I work in Klaviyo so much. Yeah. So you don’t have a lot of flows in your Klaviyo. Do you? You probably have like 12, 13. Yeah, someone. Yeah. Yeah. How many do you guys have? One hundred and eighty seven. Anyway.

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Okay. But here’s the problem. Whether you have 13 or 187, have you ever tried to export like you probably export your flows on a monthly basis to review the data? No. Or not. Okay. Well, you should. You should be exporting your flows once a month just to be checking on things, seeing if you had like a sharp decline or an increase. um You know, these sometimes they get out of date.

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Well, I will tell you when you have 187, that is basically impossible because if you export flows from Klaviyo, even if you aggregate them in the widest way possible, right? So you aggravating them, I think by like months, basically pulls, you get this spreadsheet. I’m gonna actually show this in office hours. The spreadsheet output that you get, even if you only had 13, they’re not sorted together.

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Right. So you have like the name. It’s got all the stuff, the name, the open rate, the little number that Clavio assigns it or the code. uh It’s a hot mess of data. Right. So what I had been doing and I thought I was so smart was taking that spreadsheet and putting that into chat or Claude and saying like, hey, can you organize this by flow, you know, aggregate tally, blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever.

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still massive amounts of data, especially at 187 flows. Let’s just say each flow has four emails. Look, we’re talking about insane amount of stuff. So with Claude code, you basically just say, hey, pull all my flows for April. And I have a whole prompt for this in the lesson. But basically, like I want to evaluate it based on like how old the flow is, how many people have been in it. You can like pull all that data and it organizes it all beautifully. Right.

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flow number one, flow number two, flow number three. And then I have it color code a chart of like, this flow hasn’t had anybody in it in six months. This flow is this, this flow is that, right? So all of a sudden, what even using like regular chat or Claude, I still had to go into Klaviyo, export everything, wait for Klaviyo to export it, then upload it in, then format, you know, it’s like all this formatting. And then it’s like, sometimes it would get like, it too much data, right, for it to deal with.

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Now it literally just pipes out a little chart for me and it’s like, fix these, don’t worry about these. These are ones you should probably look at, not an emergency, right? Delete these, whatever. You should archive these. You haven’t used them in two years. um That’s a game changer. I can’t wait to do that analysis with… For me, I’ve got so many projects going on and uh it’s just so nice to be able to automate this stuff. Yeah.

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The really cool thing, I was, because I was thinking about, because some of the arguments that I have with people in my life who will remain nameless say like, you’re just excited to put people out of work by doing all this stuff. And I’m like, no, I’m not excited to put people out of work. I want people to do meaningful work, right? And exporting and uploading things is not meaningful work. That’s just busy work.

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But what I do think this helps is, and I had this issue with some good friends of ours who had hired someone to work on their Klaviyo and came to light that basically that person wasn’t doing what they were paid to do, right? Well, to me, this is a great, like, I don’t think everybody should be managing their own Klaviyo. You know, if you have a decent sized business, this is probably something you should outsource, right? Like this is probably something you should get help with. um But what you can do is check people’s work really easily, right?

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All you need to do is dump it in, like ask Cloud Code to do something and check the work. And then you can say like, okay, yeah, this person’s not feeding me a bunch of bull or no, this person is like taking advantage of me because they’re not doing what they said they’re doing. They said they were going to create 10 flows. Do I have 10? You know, like you can check people’s stuff, which I think is really valuable because, you know, if you don’t know a lot about Klaviyo or you don’t know a lot about Metta, you can start fact checking people.

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And, you know, I think make better business decisions. I mean, I would would argue that if you’re checking someone’s work, you may as well have Claude do the work and train it right. Like you could. I know this sounds terrible, but I mean, you can hire someone to get the flows up and running and whatever and train Claude on those flows. And so Claude can create those flows or similar things going forward. And then you just check the work before it goes out. I mean, that’s that’s where things are going. Agree. Agree. Yeah.

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And then when the robots come out, good Lord, I don’t know what’s going to happen. ah But yeah, no, that’s cool. I’m looking forward to that lesson. I think that you’re giving today. ah I have completely automated my social media with Cloud Code, which you know how much I hate social media. Yes. But now it is manageable because I basically create one piece of content, which these days is my YouTube scripts.

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And then I feed it in and it generates a whole bunch of LinkedIn posts, Twitter threads, Facebook, TikTok. Yeah. And then it all goes into a doc that’s it, it maintains and generates. then for the TikToks, I just cut and paste them to my teleprompter and I just pump them all out all in one fell swoop. Game changer. So I just started doing this, which I know I’m late to the party, but

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I, we have all these type A scripts, right, that I’ve written, you know, so they’re, I mean, they’re good, good quality content. And we’ve talked for probably two months now about like, hey, we need to send out like an informational email once a week, right? Just, you know, with type A stuff. um And so I was like, yeah, I just need to turn the scripts into emails, right? So my first thought was like, oh, all my scripts are in Google Docs, right? So it’s like, oh, I’ll upload all that to Claude.

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and then I’ll have it put in an email, then I’ll copy and paste it into kit, blah, no, not anymore. Now that I’m all powerful, um I literally was like, hey, Claude, in my Claude code, go to this folder in Google Drive, you know, here are the scripts. This is, you know, I want these turned into emails, but they’re too long for a single email. So I created all these parameters. And this is where I think it gets important, right? You can’t just be like, hey, make my scripts into emails. Have a great day.

27:07
Right. You have to you have to give it really good instructions and you have to check your work. Right. Like so so Claude can basically with I would say probably any email service provider but I’m only like working with kid on this um is it went into drive. It pulled all the scripts. It used my parameters into creating emails. I had it and then once I got the first couple I was like OK I missed a couple steps. So

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I had to change the instructions, right? So then I had, so now in literally I started, so once I got it all tweaked how I wanted it set up correctly, I literally set it to run. I went inside, I brushed my teeth, I did my hair, I came back and I have 87 email drafts and kit waiting to be sent out. Like that’s insane.

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And it’s all like my work. It’s not it’s not even like, it’s just garbage. I stuff. It’s like, no, it’s actually based on the content that we already created. So if you listen to our prior episodes, we had been talking very negatively about blogging. Yes. Whether it’s worth it or not. But I’m back to being a believer because uh I have it now so that all the podcasts and all of the YouTube videos I put out.

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can now automatically generate a you optimize blog posts. And we’re just going for like getting mentioned here, right? We’re necessarily trying to rank for a keyword, although it sometimes happens. Who knows what’s going to happen with Google search. They announced in Google IO, which was, I believe last week that search is changing. You can now search based on, know, PDFs, images, videos and whatnot. And those blue links are still going to be there, but who knows how long they’re going to be there for, right?

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So the game now is getting mentioned. So now I have a script that just goes into my YouTube videos and creates blog posts out of them and then embeds the YouTube video in there. Same with the podcast. It’s nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like, yeah, I just am like, oh, I’ve been putting this off for like six weeks because I didn’t have the time and all I needed to do was brush my teeth. Like that’s the.

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That’s not what takes a lot of time. Doing your hair, I bet, takes a long time. That was the extra seven minutes. it can actually… don’t know if I… So this is where I get a little bit wigged out. I’m not going to have it actually schedule these emails. I want to look at them, right? Oh, of course. Yeah. I want to double check. I want to make sure it’s what I want to say. it’s like, you know, when I went through the first couple, I would say once again, like you were saying, 85 % of the way there.

29:51
I wanted to shift a couple of things around. One of the things that I forgot to say was, like I want personalization at the beginning of each email. Like I don’t want it to just like it has to say hey or hello and then the NAS have the name tag, things like that. But you won’t know that until you start doing it. Right. So the second you start doing it, then you’re like, oh, OK. You know, my immediate thought after I did this and have now 87 drafts was like, oh, I to this into LinkedIn posts. Right. Like step two.

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um So that’s where to me it gets really crazy is it’s like, well, now I can do anything. what, like there’s no limit to what the amount of content you can produce, but there is a limit to the amount of content people can consume. Sure. So uh I think that’s where you have to be a little bit careful and like, you know, yes, we can create as much content as we possibly could ever create in our life, but people can only consume a certain amount of content a week. So.

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Maybe dial it back a little bit. creating it based on what I’ve written. So it’s not like a whole ton of content, but it’s in my voice. And the goal here is to get mentioned in AI. Yeah. Yeah. And switching gears, I gave a session at Seller Summit about how to code your own Shopify apps. And I think I’ve mentioned this on the pod many times in the past. But I think the Shopify app store is in trouble. Or I should say Shopify app developers.

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Did you know that 60 % of the apps in Shopify’s app store do not have any reviews in it at all? I only know that because you told me. Which basically means that a lot of those apps are not being installed or used because they do simple things that you can now do by yourself for free. You just have to know how to articulate what you want and you can get an app. So that’s another great application of cloud code as well. So this one is

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So I did not use cloud code for this, but I think if you have a store, you should be doing this. And I’m sure you can use cloud code for it. I just didn’t know. This is before I knew the possibilities is if you have a review plugin in your Shopify store, you can actually download all of your reviews. I don’t know if you know this. No, go on. What do mean? So you can basically download like a text file of all your reviews or I don’t know how comes, doc, whatever. um

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So you can integrate this, I’m sure, with Cloud Code and Shopify and get it all automated. But this is before I knew that. um So then I basically took all those reviews and I turned the reviews into short form video scripts handling objections to the products. Oh, nice. So once again, you know, maybe 15 minutes tops um that it took me because I’ve.

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First, had to figure, we use like Judge Me, I think, for the review app. So I wasn’t like familiar, I didn’t know anything about the app. So was like, okay, I gotta figure out where everything is. ah But once I did that, like I had, I think I had 50 plus short form scripts on how to handle like objections to things or commonly pieces of feedback, right? So if this certain thing was said over and over again in the reviews, then I made sure that there was like a video.

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about that. But to me, that’s like really cool, right? Because that’s something if you are making short form content, handling objections on video as the founder is like a big thing, right? um And so that way, instead of like crawling through, you know, all your reviews or even just like exporting them and importing them and then like categorize, like it’s all just done. um So that one was one I was pretty excited about. So we started recording those last week. But um that to me was an exciting.

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find. There’s something pretty cool that I’m just trying to develop for my students right now is basically, uh, you can link up cloud code to Amazon and they can analyze all of your ad spend and tell you what needs to change and make the appropriate adjustments. You know, there’s all this software out there now that manages your Amazon PPC. Like you can pretty much do that on your own now. Uh, I dunno, there’s just so many things, so many little tools that, that,

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I wouldn’t have had the bandwidth to create in the past that I can now create. Here’s one that, so I’ve been upgrading all of our WordPress sites recently. And there’s a couple of plugins that when I tried to hit the upgrade button, they wanted like recurring amount of money to maintain. Even though I bought like a site license, which I thought was perpetual, they said in order to upgrade to this version, now you got to pay me $50 a month.

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But the plugin was working fine before. It just wasn’t working with the latest version of WordPress. So I just threw the plugin into Cloud Code and I said, hey, make this adjust this so works with WordPress 7. And it did it. I plugged it back in and it worked. So there’s no way I’m paying you recurring revenue when I paid. I actually paid for a couple plugins. Yeah, I know. I remember the fight. Yeah, and it fixed everything.

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I didn’t look at the code, didn’t touch the code or anything and it was fixed. So I know we’ve been like fawning all over cloud code. will share a limitation that I found this week. So one of the ways that I’m like so in love with it is like all of the data analysis that it’s doing and it’s like making it very manageable, especially if you have big chunks of information. However, I got on this like what else can I do with ClavioKick? Right? I was like, I want to know like the limits.

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I will say, so one of things I started having to do was analyze lists, right? Your list health. ah Because, you know, some of my clients have like massive lists, right? But you know that not all those people are engaged. we do the things like, you know, there’s sunsets and, you know, we’re segmenting people and we’re doing all the best practices, right? But like, I’m rarely like deep diving into this, right? Because I don’t have time.

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So I had it analyzed like the full list, all, you know, 300,000 or so people. And then it basically was like, okay, these are your buckets. These are your problem children, right? Like this way. And then it’s like, then it was like, do you want me to create like a segment of these people? You know, do you want me to start building this? It is inadequate in building segments. And I’m not sure if it is because Klaviyo is,

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Like, I don’t know, think sometimes those segments in Klaviyo are confusing about, especially like profile properties and things like that. And I feel like that’s just, that is not there yet. um Now, did it tell me everything I needed to do and I could build a segment? Yes. It just didn’t use the right terminology to find it in Klaviyo, which is kind of funny because it’s connected. But I will say like that’s one, I think deficiency right now, probably won’t be a deficiency by the time this airs, but. um

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That’s something where I was like, oh no, I have to go in and do a little bit of manual work, but not complaining. You You got to go in there and do some manual work. I know, know. hate it when that happens. Yeah. Right? How did you know that it just aired out creating the segment? Like, how did you know? Did you just double check it? I double checked it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I still double check everything because I don’t trust. I mean, speaking of deficiencies, like one time I accidentally gave Claude code permission.

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to do something, it was just kind of a whim, because sometimes you just click yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, don’t ask me again. Yes, yes. And I noticed it started uh modifying files outside of the project directory. And it’s because I gave it permission to do this a while. And thankfully nothing, nothing bad happened. you know, you have to be a little bit careful about the permissions that you give it. Yeah, you’ve probably heard stories on the news how one lady had

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Claude accidentally delete all of our emails or something like that. It could happen. If you’re not careful. feel like there’s so many checks though. Well, that’s the problem. Right? Because it asks you so many times that you end up just going yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that’s That’s true. And I’m being honest, half time I don’t know what’s asking me. I’m like, sure, you can do that. I don’t really know what that means. I’m sure it’s fine. I mean, a lot of people I know just give it blanket.

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permissions so doesn’t have to deal with that, right? I’m not at that point yet. No, I wouldn’t be. Which is why actually I was, so Jen hasn’t had the fun of playing around with cloud code. So what I’m going to do, think, is I’m going to install it on a VPS. So it’s not related to my machine or anything at all and it’s in the cloud and anybody who I want using it can use it.

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Who cares what it can do in the cloud, right? It’s not attached to the computer or whatnot. And so I think that’s what I’m gonna do next. Okay. That’s too advanced for me. Well, no, it’s the same stuff. It’s just a different machine, right? Yeah. Open the cloud that everyone can access. I mean, that’s one disadvantage right now. The way I’m using it personally is it’s tied to my computer. Yes. Yes. Which I don’t love, but. Yeah. You know.

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Only because I swap back and forth between computers. That’s right. Yeah. I only have one computer at home. Oh, my laptop. But I don’t do anything major on my laptop because the screen is too damn small. At the font sizes that I need now, like I can’t fit very much on the screen. Yeah, but there you have it. I’m excited. I think that the time savings alone, if you’re already using Claude, you need to

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to move over to Claude code because it’s going to save you that extra step um that I didn’t realize that I was not taking advantage of that until I figured it out, right? So I think it will save you additional time and the amount of things that it can do. And if you ever get stuck, you literally just ask Claude how to do the next thing and it will walk you through very…

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You can have it dumbed down as much as possible and it will get you through to the next step. if you’re not using Cloud Code, just think about it this way. You’re going to be behind all those people that do use it, just from a productivity perspective. And if you’re one of those people who are using it and you’re going up against a lot of people who aren’t using it, which is probably the majority of people right now, you’re going to get way ahead. So at least just give it a try. Hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Now if you aren’t using Claude code yet, I can guarantee you it’s going to change your life. For more information and resources, go over to mywifequitterjob.com slash episode 646. And once again, if you’re interested in starting your own e-commerce store, head on over to mywifequitterjob.com and sign up for my free six day mini course. Just type in your email and I’ll send you the course right away. Thanks for listening.