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472: The ONLY 4 Ecommerce Platforms You Should Be Considering for Your Online Store – Family First Friday

472: The ONLY 4 Ecommerce Platforms You Should Be Considering for Your Online Store! - Family First Friday

In this Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I walk through the only four ecommerce platforms I would consider for a new online store: Shopify, Shift4Shop, WooCommerce, and BigCommerce. Each one wins for a different type of seller depending on budget, tech skill, product type, and how much you care about SEO and blogging.

My short-answer recommendation: pick Shopify if you want the safest, easiest choice and have money to burn on apps. Pick BigCommerce if you want a fuller feature set out of the box with better SEO. Pick Shift4Shop if you are in the US and want a powerful cart for essentially $14.50 a month. Pick WooCommerce if you are tech savvy and want the cheapest, most flexible setup on the planet.

Below is a full breakdown of each platform’s real strengths and weaknesses so you can pick without regretting it 12 months in.

Key takeaways

  • Statista lists WooCommerce as the largest global ecommerce platform by market share, followed by Squarespace, Shopify, and Wix. Two of my top four (Shift4Shop and BigCommerce) do not even crack that list.
  • Shopify’s real cost is apps: the average Shopify store uses 7 apps, and my course students pay several hundred dollars per month on recurring app fees on top of the base plan.
  • Shift4Shop is effectively free ($14.50/month equivalent in credit card fees) once you process at least $500 in monthly payments through Shift4Payments.
  • WooCommerce is the cheapest and most SEO-friendly option and can be launched for as little as $3, but you own all server maintenance, security, and updates.
  • BigCommerce is priced by revenue tier ($29.99, $79, $299 per month) and includes features (no transaction fees, better SEO, better WordPress blog integration) that Shopify charges apps to replicate.

How to pick the best ecommerce platform for your online store

The best ecommerce platform for your online store depends on four inputs: your budget, your technical skill, the products you sell, and how much you care about SEO and blogging. There is no universal winner, which is why most “top 10 ecommerce platforms” listicles that just point at Shopify are useless.

Ignore raw market share when picking. Free platforms like WooCommerce dominate global usage because 90% of the sign-ups never make a sale, so the leaderboard is skewed by hobby stores that never take off.

Instead, match the platform to your real constraints. Every option below is a legitimate seven-figure cart in the right hands; the question is which one fits how you plan to run and grow your store.

Shopify: the safest ecommerce platform for most new sellers

Shopify is the safest ecommerce platform to recommend for most new sellers because it is easy to use, has the largest third-party app ecosystem, and has the most developer talent available for hire. The old saying applies: no one ever got fired for recommending Shopify.

The core Shopify product is deliberately bare-bones, which was a genius early strategy. It forced third parties to build the missing features into the App Store, which now has apps for essentially every feature you can imagine.

The downside is cost. The average Shopify store uses 7 apps, and each app is a monthly fee. Advanced discount rules can be $20 to $50 a month, video reviews another $50, and so on, and it adds up.

There are five other real Shopify weaknesses worth knowing before you sign up.

  • Bad blogging platform. Shopify’s built-in blog is weak, which matters if you plan to build content-driven organic traffic.
  • Transaction fees on non-Shopify payments. If you accept PayPal (which almost every store should for one-click checkout), Shopify’s transaction fee penalty can push your total payment cost near 5%.
  • Poor international support. Countries outside the US, Canada, UK, Europe, and Singapore are largely unsupported.
  • Suboptimal SEO URL structure. Shopify forces “collections” and “products” into your URLs and does not let you fully customize them.
  • Product variant cap. Only 3 option types and 100 total variant combinations, which is a hard limit if you sell apparel, jewelry, or anything with many SKUs.

Real-world app example from Seller Summit 2023: Walmart Marketplace built a Shopify app that automatically imports your Shopify products into Walmart. It only works with Shopify because developers ship to Shopify first for the recurring revenue.

Shift4Shop: powerful ecommerce platform for $14.50 a month

Shift4Shop is the most feature-rich ecommerce platform you can run for under $15 a month, as long as you are in the US and can process at least $500 per month through Shift4Payments. Below that threshold the cart costs $29 a month; above it, the cart is free.

The math: charging your own credit card $500 a month costs about 2.9% or $14.50 in processing fees. That gets you a cart that is more powerful out of the box than Shopify, with free built-in email marketing and support for eight-figure enterprise stores.

The biggest downside is the interface. Shift4Shop packs a huge feature set into one back end, which creates a steeper learning curve than Shopify. My teenage daughter picked it up in a weekend and launched her jewelry shop at renabee.com, so it is doable, but plan on the extra ramp time.

The other weakness is a small developer community. New integrations (like the Walmart Marketplace Shopify app I just mentioned) will land on Shift4Shop much later, if at all.

WooCommerce: the cheapest and most SEO-friendly ecommerce platform

WooCommerce is the cheapest and most SEO-friendly ecommerce platform because it is 100% free open-source software that runs on top of WordPress, which powers over 20% of the web and is still the best blogging platform on the planet. You can launch a real store for as little as $3 with a basic web host.

The catch is that you own everything. WooCommerce is just software, so you need a web host, and you are responsible for server maintenance, security patches, plugin updates, and recovery if you get hacked. Shopify and Shift4Shop handle all that for you.

The upside of ownership is real. You control the source code, you have zero platform gatekeepers, and you can sell products that hosted platforms will not touch. During the pandemic Shopify shut down a friend’s store for selling hand sanitizer at what Shopify decided was too high a price. Shopify also bans drugs and various chemicals from the platform, and their enforcement can be arbitrary.

WooCommerce also has excellent third-party developer support because it is the most-used cart in the world, so finding help is easy. If my 9- and 11-year-old kids can run their store at kidincharge.com on WooCommerce, most adults with an hour of patience can too.

BigCommerce: the best out-of-the-box ecommerce platform for growing stores

BigCommerce is the best out-of-the-box ecommerce platform for stores that want Shopify-level ease of use with more built-in features and better SEO. It combines the polish of Shopify with much of the depth of Shift4Shop, and it charges no transaction fees no matter which payment processor you use.

BigCommerce has one feature Shopify cannot match: a first-class WordPress integration that lets you run your BigCommerce store and a WordPress blog on the same domain. For content-driven brands that matters a lot, because your blog authority feeds your product pages.

Other real strengths: no product variant limits, better international support, superior analytics and reporting, and a much smaller app dependency than Shopify. The main weakness is a smaller developer ecosystem than Shopify, though still bigger than Shift4Shop.

Pricing is tiered by revenue, which is either a feature or a bug depending on your model.

Monthly planRevenue ceilingBest for
$29.99Up to $50K/yearNew stores
$79Up to $180K/yearGrowing stores
$299Up to $400K/yearEstablished stores

The revenue-tier pricing hurts if you run a drop-shipping store with 5% net margins, because the flat fee is a bigger percentage of a small profit pool. For higher-margin private-label or branded products, it scales sensibly.

Ecommerce platforms compared side by side

Here is the side-by-side comparison of all four platforms on the dimensions that actually matter.

PlatformStarting costEase of useSEO/bloggingTransaction feesProduct variantsBest for
Shopify$29/mo + appsEasiestWeak blog, forced URL structureYes on non-Shopify Payments3 options, 100 combosBeginners with budget for apps
Shift4Shop~$14.50/mo effective (US)Steeper learning curveSolid, includes free email marketingNoUnlimitedUS sellers who want maximum features cheaply
WooCommerceFrom $3/mo (web host)Requires tech skillBest in class (WordPress)NoUnlimitedContent-first brands and tinkerers
BigCommerce$29.99/moEasyGreat, with WordPress integrationNoUnlimitedGrowing stores wanting fewer apps

Which ecommerce platform should you actually pick?

Pick the platform that matches your specific constraint, and do not overthink it. The four scenarios below cover almost every new seller I meet.

Choose Shopify if you are new, not tech savvy, have budget for monthly app fees, and want the biggest developer ecosystem to grow into. You will pay more over time but the ramp is the fastest.

Choose BigCommerce if you want most of Shopify’s ease with fewer app dependencies, need PayPal without a transaction penalty, sell products with many variants, or want a real WordPress blog on the same domain.

Choose Shift4Shop if BigCommerce is out of budget, you live in the United States, and you can process $500 a month through Shift4Payments to unlock the free plan. It has the most functionality per dollar of any platform on this list.

Choose WooCommerce if you are tech savvy, want the cheapest possible start, care most about SEO and content, or sell products that hosted platforms restrict. Plan on owning security and maintenance in exchange for full control.

Frequently asked questions

What is the best ecommerce platform for beginners in 2023?

Shopify is the best ecommerce platform for beginners in 2023 because it has the shallowest learning curve, the largest app ecosystem, and the most developer talent available for hire. The tradeoff is monthly app fees that push the true cost well above the base $29 plan for most stores.

Is WooCommerce really free?

WooCommerce the software is 100% free, but you have to pay for a web host to run it (from about $3 to $30 per month) and you are responsible for security, backups, and plugin updates. Add-on plugins for advanced features often cost extra, though the free defaults cover most stores.

Does Shopify charge extra fees for using PayPal?

Yes. If you accept PayPal on Shopify without using Shopify Payments as your primary processor, Shopify adds a transaction fee on every PayPal order. Combined with PayPal’s own fee, the total payment cost can approach 5%, which is high enough that many Shopify stores skip PayPal despite the one-click checkout benefit.

What is the cheapest ecommerce platform that can support a real store?

WooCommerce is the cheapest legitimate ecommerce platform because the cart software is free and you only pay for hosting, which can be as little as $3 per month. Shift4Shop is the cheapest hosted (fully managed) option at an effective $14.50 per month for US sellers who process $500 monthly through Shift4Payments.

Which ecommerce platform has the best SEO?

WooCommerce has the best SEO because it runs on WordPress, which is the strongest blogging and content platform on the web. BigCommerce is second because it also integrates cleanly with WordPress for content, and Shopify is weakest because it forces non-editable URL structures like /collections/ and /products/.

Can I sell products with many variants on Shopify?

Not comfortably. Shopify limits products to 3 option types and 100 total variant combinations, which is a hard cap for apparel, jewelry, or anything with size, color, and style options. BigCommerce, Shift4Shop, and WooCommerce all support unlimited variants, so pick one of those for variant-heavy catalogs.

Which ecommerce platform is best for drop shipping?

Shopify has the deepest drop-shipping app ecosystem, but BigCommerce’s revenue-tiered pricing can eat a bigger percentage of thin drop-shipping margins on small stores. Shift4Shop and WooCommerce both work well if you want lower fixed costs, provided you are comfortable with less specialized drop-shipping tooling.

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471: Key Takeaways From Sellers Summit 2023: These Trends Are Taking Over Ecommerce!

471: Key Takeaways From Sellers Summit 2023: These Trends Are Taking Over Ecommerce!

In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, my business partner Toni Herrbach and I recap Sellers Summit 2023, which was one of the strongest years we have run since the conference started in 2016. Nineteen sessions spanned Amazon PPC, Google Performance Max, Walmart Marketplace, community-driven brand building, live selling, influencer marketing, direct mail, AI, and how to prepare a business for an exit.

The through-line across almost every talk was the same: Amazon-only sellers need to diversify, and the fastest paths to diversification in 2023 are community and content (Alicia Reynoso’s 6-week challenge, Chris Schaefer’s conversation method, Natalie Mounter’s free-influencer playbook), off-Amazon channels (Walmart Marketplace, Buy with Prime), and operational leverage from AI (Mike Jackness) and dynamic pricing.

Below is the full recap of what worked at Sellers Summit 2023 and the specific tactics from each session you can implement in your own business.

Key takeaways

  • Attendance skewed close to 40% women this year, a big shift from earlier years when female attendance was in the low single digits. Diversifying speakers directly changed who showed up.
  • The strongest sales tactics of 2023 are community-led (6-week challenges, free influencer partnerships, conversation-based brand building), not paid-ad-led.
  • Walmart Marketplace has flipped from Wild West to actively courting third-party sellers, including a new Shopify app that auto-imports your Shopify catalog to Walmart.
  • Amazon’s Buy with Prime now integrates with Klaviyo, so you get the customer email and purchase data on your own site while Amazon handles 2-day fulfillment.
  • Direct mail (postcards) is having a moment. Case studies at the event showed ROIs in the mid-teens, with automated abandoned-cart postcards mailed within 24 to 48 hours.

Why Sellers Summit 2023 was the strongest year yet

Sellers Summit 2023 was the strongest year of the conference because it combined the highest session count in the event’s history (19 talks), the most balanced speaker lineup we have ever assembled, and an attendee mix that finally reflected how ecommerce actually looks. Female attendance jumped to roughly 40%, up from a handful of women in the earliest years.

The other reason 2023 clicked: 2022 was a rough transition year post-pandemic, with carried-over tickets from the 2020 virtual event and travel-shy attendees. By 2023 the community was back in the room and the sponsor and speaker rosters were both stronger.

Below is what each session taught and the specific tactic to take back to your own store.

Toni’s email marketing session: what got a Klaviyo list from $1M to $3M-$4M in email revenue

Toni’s talk broke down the exact Klaviyo flows and campaigns she used to grow one ecommerce client’s email revenue from just under $1 million a year to close to $3 million to $4 million a year. The single biggest lever was simple: send more emails to more people.

The talk covered list growth, sales-email cadence, and (most importantly) the automated flows most stores are not running: not just abandoned cart and post-purchase, but browse-abandonment, second-purchase, win-back, VIP, product-launch, and segmented replenishment flows. Each flow is a compounding revenue stream once it is set up correctly.

The takeaway for most Klaviyo users is that a well-instrumented flow library beats a bigger send list. Getting each customer into the right flow at the right time is where the incremental revenue lives.

Tiffany Ivanovsky on live selling and the $1,700 in 8 minutes moment

Tiffany Ivanovsky’s live selling session ended with a live demo where Jen Chou (Steve’s wife, not a professional livestreamer) sold $1,700 of product in about 8 minutes, over a bad convention-center wifi connection. That single demo made the whole case for live selling as a channel more effectively than any slide.

Tiffany’s talk itself was the framework: why live selling works (energy plus urgency plus product demo), the reasons every ecommerce brand should test it, and a reel of her own bloopers so first-timers see that imperfection sells. She uses a live-selling tool that shows revenue-per-minute in real time.

The 8-minute case study also validated her thesis. Shy or reserved sellers can become effective live sellers once the camera turns on, especially with light coaching on product handoff and pacing.

Chris Schaefer’s conversation method for building an ecommerce brand off Amazon

Chris Schaefer’s session taught a three-step “conversation method” for building an ecommerce brand outside of Amazon, using direct customer engagement to create loyalty and repeat purchases that ads alone cannot buy. His three C’s covered the sequence: capture, converse, convert.

The framing matters because most Amazon-only sellers know they need to diversify but do not know how to start. The conversation method gives you a repeatable playbook for that early off-Amazon community that fuels product launches and repeat orders.

Steve’s talk: how to escape Amazon’s grip and build a real DTC channel

Steve’s session was on how to escape Amazon’s grip and build a thriving ecommerce brand without Amazon holding you back. It was awkwardly timed given Amazon was a sponsor, but it is the question we get most from Amazon-first sellers who want a second channel before Amazon’s fees eat their margin.

The framework: keep Amazon for velocity and social proof, launch a DTC store with content-driven traffic (SEO plus email plus community), and treat off-Amazon channels as brand-building rather than pure conversion. Amazon-only exposure is a business-risk problem, not just a channel-mix problem.

Brett Curry on Google Performance Max for ecommerce ads

Brett Curry’s session was on Google Performance Max, Google’s new automated ad type that uses Google’s AI to place ads across Search, Display, YouTube, and Discover based on conversion likelihood. Google borrowed the concept from Meta’s automated campaigns and Performance Max is now the easiest way for most ecommerce brands to run Google ads.

Brett gave three implementation paths depending on how much time you want to spend inside the tool. Even the lowest-effort setup produces meaningful conversions if your product feed and creative are solid.

Andrea Wilson’s ManyChat workshop for messenger marketing

Andrea Wilson ran a workshop-style ManyChat session where attendees actually built messenger flows inside the room, so everyone walked out with something live in their account. That format made it one of the highest-implementation talks of the event.

If you watch the recording, treat it as a build-along and expect to pause and rewatch a few times. It is the kind of session where you get out exactly what you put in.

Brandon Young’s keyword strategy for Amazon listings

Brandon Young’s session covered a keyword-research methodology for Amazon listings that surfaces outlier and long-tail keywords most big-name sellers miss. The method also prioritizes keywords by opportunity so you know where to invest listing real estate first.

Steve has used Brandon’s methodology and his Data Dive tool on his own listings and it has worked. Brandon was also giving private Data Dive demos throughout the event.

Walmart Marketplace: from Wild West to actively courting sellers

Walmart Marketplace has completely changed its posture and now actively courts third-party sellers, including a new Shopify app that auto-imports your Shopify catalog into Walmart. Back in 2017, Walmart required a physical (non-garage, non-storage) warehouse to even qualify.

If you have not looked at Walmart in a few years, the barriers are dramatically lower today. Diversifying to a second marketplace is one of the cleanest hedges against Amazon fee increases.

Mena Al-Kashkish on Amazon PPC (with live account teardowns)

Mena Al-Kashkish’s session on Amazon PPC was paired with live account teardowns at his Trivium.co booth. Mena offered to review any attendee’s PPC account and identify the top improvements.

Trivium continues to offer account reviews after the event. That kind of one-on-one audit is often more valuable than any framework talk because it applies directly to your listings.

Jungle Scout on the seller mistakes that kill Amazon profitability

Jungle Scout’s session broke down the specific seller mistakes that quietly kill Amazon profitability once you factor in Amazon’s hidden fees. The framing was helpful because most sellers underestimate the true landed cost of an FBA unit and end up scaling unprofitable SKUs.

Getida was also on stage as a sponsor. Their service recovers lost and damaged FBA inventory and only charges when they recover something, and Sellers Summit ticket holders received $400 in free reimbursements as a perk.

Liz Adkins on Fluencer Fruit and matching sellers with Amazon influencers

Liz Adkins launched Fluencer Fruit after six years at Jungle Scout, and her session covered how sellers can use Amazon influencer videos to drive product velocity in the video box of a brand-registered listing. Influencer videos in the listing get roughly 8x higher watch-and-buy conversion than a seller’s own polished brand video.

The reason is credibility. Overly produced brand videos read as ads. Influencer videos read as honest reviews, especially when the influencer includes a small critical note (a “hum” from an ice machine, for example) alongside the positives.

Alicia Reynoso on growing a brand with a 6-week challenge

Alicia Reynoso built an 8-figure water bottle brand by running structured 6-week challenges that create a community around the product, which is why Steve is now running a 6-week challenge of his own modeled on her method. In a market as crowded as branded water bottles, the challenge is what made her stand out.

The mechanics work for almost any product with an ongoing-use case. A challenge gives customers a reason to talk about your brand daily, which fuels UGC, referrals, and repeat purchases without ad spend.

Mike Jackness on the AI tactics you probably are not using

Mike Jackness’s session covered advanced AI tactics for ecommerce that go well beyond “use ChatGPT for bullet points.” He walked through workflows that even seasoned sellers in the room admitted they were not doing yet.

If you have written off AI as basic listing help, this is the session to watch. The real leverage is in the composed workflows, not any single tool.

Bill D’Alessandro’s cost-cutting talk: the “$100K promise” session

Bill D’Alessandro promised his session would save every attendee $100,000 in their business, and multiple people saved real money during the talk itself. Steve saved $40,000 in real cost cuts based on Bill’s frameworks.

The talk covered specific vendor renegotiations, subscription audits, and operational cost lines that most ecommerce owners never revisit once they are set up. If you have not audited your monthly overhead in the past year, this is the highest-ROI session on the roster.

Natalie Mounter on building a multimillion-dollar brand with unpaid influencers

Natalie Mounter grew a multimillion-dollar brand primarily with free (unpaid) influencer partnerships, and her session walked through the exact outreach and vetting process step by step. She sends the deck herself and does not sell on Amazon, so her entire growth engine sits on the same free playbook.

Most sellers assume influencers require payment and expect to be burned by non-delivery. Natalie’s process eliminates both problems by qualifying influencers up front and structuring the ask around free product plus content in exchange.

Spencer Jan of Solo Stove: how a bootstrapped brand went to a $2B IPO

Spencer Jan’s session covered how Solo Stove went from a bootstrapped side project to a $2 billion IPO, told through the personal failures that shaped the decisions along the way. It was the most heartfelt talk of the event.

The lesson is not that failure precedes success. It is that the specific failure modes teach specific lessons that later become the operating principles behind the eventual win. Spencer is one of the nicest and most unassuming founders you will meet, and the story lands even harder because of it.

Quiet Light on the steps to make your business sellable in 2-3 years

Quiet Light’s session laid out the exact steps you have to take today if you want to sell your business in two to three years. Most sellers only think about exit prep when they are ready to sell, at which point it is too late to clean up the structural issues that hurt valuation.

Multiple attendees have exited through Quiet Light, including Meg, Carol Rains, and Andrew Youderian. The theme: split multiple brands off shared Amazon accounts, get your books into professional shape, and address IP and contract issues years before you go to market.

Meghla Bhardwaj on sourcing from India and Vietnam

Meghla Bhardwaj’s session covered sourcing from India and Vietnam as alternatives to China, including which product categories each country is strong in, typical labor costs, and how to run supplier discovery trips. Given how many sellers are looking to reduce China exposure right now, this was one of the most timely talks.

The high-level takeaway: India and Vietnam are not blanket replacements for China. Each country has categories where it wins on price, quality, or tariffs, and you need to match the country to the product to make the numbers work.

Mike Epstein on direct mail and postcards with automated Klaviyo-style triggers

Mike Epstein’s session on postcard direct mail is where a lot of attendees had their biggest “why am I not doing this?” moment. Steve ran a case study on his own site and hit a 16x ROI on a postcard campaign.

The reason direct mail is working now is that everyone abandoned it for email, which is now noisy and competitive while physical mail is quiet. Modern services can trigger a postcard from an abandoned cart, match your handwriting, and drop it in the mail within 24 to 48 hours.

Dana Jaunzemis’s closing keynote

Dana Jaunzemis’s closing keynote was the strongest personal story of the event and struck attendees across every demographic in the room. Male, female, new sellers, veteran sellers, she had every kind of person walking up afterward saying she was speaking directly to them.

We will not spoil the specifics. Watch the recording if you have a virtual pass.

The big cross-cutting trends from Sellers Summit 2023

Looking across all 19 sessions, four cross-cutting ecommerce trends emerged from Sellers Summit 2023.

  • Community and free-audience playbooks are outperforming paid ads for brand-building. Alicia’s challenges, Natalie’s free influencers, Chris’s conversation method, and Liz’s Amazon influencer videos all rely on earned attention over paid impressions.
  • AI is moving from novelty to operating leverage. Chad Rubin’s dynamic pricing (from episode 473), Mike Jackness’s workflows, and Google’s Performance Max all treat AI as the layer that manages complexity a human team cannot.
  • Amazon-only is a risk position, not a business. Walmart Marketplace, Buy with Prime, and DTC channels were the top diversification themes across sessions and hallway conversations.
  • Old-school channels are back. Direct mail postcards, printed influencer packages, and offline-to-online funnels are working precisely because everyone abandoned them.

Frequently asked questions

What is Sellers Summit?

Sellers Summit is an annual ecommerce conference founded by Steve Chou and Toni Herrbach that focuses on practical, tactical sessions for owners of physical-product businesses (Amazon FBA, Shopify, WooCommerce, etc.). It runs each May and caps attendance to keep the room intimate, and it publishes a virtual pass with recordings of every session.

How can I get the Sellers Summit 2023 recordings?

You can get all Sellers Summit 2023 recordings by going to sellersummit.com and clicking “grab your virtual pass.” The link comes down once Sellers Summit 2024 is announced, so it is only available for a limited window.

What are the top ecommerce trends from Sellers Summit 2023?

The top ecommerce trends from Sellers Summit 2023 are community-driven brand building (6-week challenges, unpaid influencers, Amazon influencer videos), AI-driven operations (dynamic pricing, advanced workflows, Google Performance Max), channel diversification off Amazon (Walmart Marketplace, Buy with Prime, DTC), and the return of direct mail with modern automation.

Does Buy with Prime integrate with Klaviyo?

Yes. Amazon’s Buy with Prime now integrates with Klaviyo, which means customer email addresses and purchase data from Buy with Prime orders flow into your Klaviyo lists. The integration launched in mid-2023 and is one of the reasons Buy with Prime is worth revisiting for DTC brands.

Is Walmart Marketplace worth joining in 2023?

Yes, especially if you already sell on Shopify. Walmart Marketplace has removed most of the old barriers (physical warehouse requirements, complex applications) and released a Shopify app that auto-imports your catalog, which makes it one of the fastest ways to add a second sales channel and reduce Amazon dependence.

What is a 6-week challenge in ecommerce?

A 6-week challenge in ecommerce is a structured, six-week program where customers use your product daily toward a shared goal, generating community engagement, user-generated content, and repeat purchases. Alicia Reynoso used the format to build an 8-figure water bottle brand and it is now spreading to other product categories.

Do Amazon influencer videos really convert better than brand videos?

Yes, roughly 8x better in the video box of a brand-registered listing according to data shared at the event. The reason is credibility: shoppers trust honest influencer reviews (especially ones that include a small critical note) far more than the professionally produced brand videos that read as ads.

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470: Sneaky Copywriting Tricks Ecommerce Stores Use To Hook You – Family First Friday

470: Sneaky Copywriting Tricks Ecommerce Stores Use To Hook You - Family First Friday

In this Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I break down seven psychological copywriting tricks that ecommerce stores (including mine) use to lift open rates, click rates, and conversion rates. Each one is a documented cognitive bias, and each one can be added to a Shopify product page, an Amazon listing, or a Klaviyo email in under an hour.

I have been selling handkerchiefs online for over 15 years at BumblebeeLinens.com. The tactics below are what I actually use in my subject lines, product descriptions, and post-purchase flows, and I have watched them move revenue on a $1M+ store.

Below are the seven biases, an example of each in real ecommerce copy, and how to plug them into your own store today.

Key takeaways

  • The Zeigarnik effect (people remember and finish interrupted tasks) turns your email subject lines into cliffhangers that drive opens.
  • Anchoring bias makes a $2,000 mattress feel cheap when the copy leads with $10K to $15K, which is why you should list products high-to-low on category pages.
  • A well-placed decoy price grew one magazine’s subscription revenue from $8,000 to $12,000 by pushing 84% of buyers to the top tier.
  • Bandwagon bias plus reviews lift conversion 115% for shoppers who interact with reviews, per Market Tailor data.
  • The Speakeasy Effect: write like a fifth grader. Simple words test as more trustworthy and valuable than SAT vocabulary.

What is psychological copywriting in ecommerce?

Psychological copywriting in ecommerce is the deliberate use of documented cognitive biases (like anchoring, the bandwagon effect, and the Zeigarnik effect) in your product pages, ads, and emails to influence how shoppers perceive value, urgency, and social proof. The techniques are old (most were named by academic psychologists decades ago) but they are especially effective on Shopify stores and Amazon listings because they scale across every visitor.

The mistake most ecommerce operators make is thinking their copy has to describe features. What actually converts is copy that speaks to the emotional lens the shopper is already looking through, then closes the loop with a specific action.

Below are the seven biases I use most often, in the order I would layer them into a new store.

1. The Zeigarnik effect: use cliffhangers in email subject lines

The Zeigarnik effect is the tendency for people to remember and want to finish interrupted or incomplete tasks, and you can use it in ecommerce email by turning your subject line into a cliffhanger the reader has to open the email to resolve. The bias is named after Soviet psychologist Bluma Zeigarnik, who found the brain maintains cognitive tension until a task is complete.

The Netflix binge is the everyday version. You stay up until 2 AM finishing a series because the cliffhanger at the end of each episode leaves your brain unable to let it go.

In an email, a subject line like “This is the craziest deal we’ve ever offered” creates the same tension. The reader has to open to find out what the deal is, then you resolve the tension inside with the offer and a click-through to see more.

2. Anchoring bias: lead with a high price to make yours feel cheap

Anchoring bias makes people rely too heavily on the first piece of information they receive (the “anchor”) when they make decisions, which is why every strikethrough MSRP price you see on Amazon is deliberate. The anchor sets the reference point, and everything after it feels cheap by comparison.

The clearest ecommerce example is a mattress pitch I got recently. The copy opened with “$10,000 to $15,000 for a luxury mattress from a big-name brand,” then presented the actual product at $2,000. After the anchor, $2,000 read as a bargain, even though $2,000 is still a lot for a mattress.

This is also why you should always sort your online store’s category pages from high to low price. Shoppers land on the highest-priced item first, then everything they scroll through afterwards feels progressively more affordable.

3. The decoy effect: add a bait tier to push people to the premium option

The decoy effect adds a strategically bad option to your pricing table so a nearby option looks obviously better, and it is one of the highest-leverage moves you can make on a pricing page. The Economist’s magazine case study is the textbook example.

Here is what actually happened when they added the decoy.

SetupWeb only ($59)Print only ($125)Web + Print ($125)Total revenue
Without decoy (2 options)68% chose ($4,000)Not offered32% chose ($4,000)$8,000
With decoy (3 options)16% chose0% chose (decoy)84% chose$12,000

The print-only tier at the same price as web + print made web + print look like a no-brainer, and revenue jumped 50%. The decoy itself never has to sell; it just makes the target option obviously superior.

4. Storytelling: sell the story behind the product, not the product

Storytelling works in ecommerce copy because purchases are rarely logical and stories are the fastest path to the emotional part of the decision. On the podcast I told the story of buying a baby sling in a store that had a dozen options.

The one we bought was 2x more expensive than any other on the market, and we bought it because the sales clerk told us its designer was a 70-year-old Japanese man who wanted children but couldn’t have them due to his wife’s infertility, so he devoted his life to designing baby carriers. She then pointed to the attention-to-detail features in the product that matched the story. We fell for it because the story made the sling feel meaningful, not just functional.

Every product page can do the same thing. The founder story, the sourcing story, the design story, the customer story: any of them will outperform a bullet list of specs on a comparable-price product.

5. Bandwagon bias: show that everyone else is already buying

Bandwagon bias makes people want to do what other people are already doing, which is why “join 121,000 shoppers who switched to reusable handkerchiefs to save the environment” outperforms “buy our reusable handkerchiefs.” The desire to conform and avoid feeling left out is one of the strongest forces in consumer behavior.

The tactical version is stacking reviews, testimonials, and shout-outs everywhere on the product page. According to Market Tailor, shoppers who interact with reviews are 115% more likely to convert than shoppers who don’t, and the effect gets stronger as review count rises.

The email version is showing the raw number: “Over 121,000 shoppers can’t be wrong.” Numbers, especially specific ones, land harder than vague social claims like “loved by thousands.”

6. Confirmation bias: mirror the reader’s existing beliefs

Confirmation bias makes people seek and remember information that confirms what they already believe, which means the most persuasive ecommerce copy sounds like the reader’s own inner monologue. When your copy says out loud what the reader is already thinking, the reader trusts you and buys.

Here is an example from my own wedding-handkerchief line. “Congratulations on your engagement. This is an incredibly exciting time in your life and we understand how important it is for you to have the perfect wedding you’ve always dreamed of. We also understand how complex planning a wedding can be, and you want to have a lasting keepsake of your special day.” Every sentence mirrors what a bride is already feeling.

The tactic is empathy at scale. Interview your customers, listen for the exact words they use, and put those words back into the copy. The closer your language matches theirs, the more your product feels custom-built for them.

7. Action bias: tell people what happens if they don’t buy

Action bias is the human preference for taking action over sitting still, and you can use it in ecommerce copy by naming the specific cost of inaction alongside the specific reward of buying now. People buy to escape a status quo they don’t like, so surface that status quo in the copy.

Example, from my own book launch: “Are you tired of spending 40 hours a week at a job you don’t like? Wouldn’t you rather be spending your time with your loved ones or actually doing what you want? Order The Family First Entrepreneur and learn how to achieve financial freedom right now.” The pain of the current situation and the release of the purchase are both named in the same block.

Time-boxed bonuses layer on top (“if you order right now you’ll also receive…”). The urgency comes from the bonuses expiring, not from a fake countdown clock.

Bonus: the Speakeasy Effect and why you should write like a fifth grader

The Speakeasy Effect is the finding that words that are easy to say and understand test as more trustworthy and more valuable, which is why big vocabulary in ecommerce copy quietly hurts sales. If you have to reach for a thesaurus, your reader has to reach for a dictionary, and every second they spend translating is a second they aren’t buying.

The rule of thumb: write for a fifth-grade reading level. Short sentences. Common words. Concrete examples. Every complexity you strip out is a small trust deposit.

The counterintuitive part is that this applies at every price point, not just budget brands. Luxury brands sell better with simple copy too, because plain language reads as confident rather than desperate to impress.

How to layer these copywriting techniques on your ecommerce store

Layer these copywriting techniques on your ecommerce store in the order that matches the buyer’s journey: anchoring and decoy on the pricing page, storytelling and confirmation bias on the product page, bandwagon proof throughout, Zeigarnik in your email subject lines, and action bias in the final call to action.

Do not try to install all seven at once. Ship one bias per week and measure the delta on your top-three product pages so you know which biases are doing the work.

Also, be honest. Every one of these tactics still requires a real product that solves a real problem for a real customer. Psychology multiplies a good offer and it exposes a bad one.

Frequently asked questions

What is the Zeigarnik effect in copywriting?

The Zeigarnik effect is the tendency for people to remember and want to complete unfinished tasks, and in copywriting it is used to create cliffhangers in email subject lines and headlines that force the reader to click through to resolve the tension. It is named after Soviet psychologist Bluma Zeigarnik, who identified it in the 1920s.

Does anchoring bias really work on ecommerce product pages?

Yes. Anchoring bias is the reason strikethrough MSRP prices, “was/now” formatting, and premium-to-budget product sort orders exist. When shoppers see the higher price first, every lower price after it registers as a better value, and the effect works even when the shopper knows they are being anchored.

What is the decoy effect in pricing?

The decoy effect is a pricing tactic where a strategically bad third option is added to a pricing page to make one of the other options look obviously superior. The Economist magazine study showed a 50% revenue lift by adding a print-only tier at the same price as web + print, which pushed 84% of buyers to the premium bundle.

How do I use storytelling in an ecommerce product description?

Use storytelling in an ecommerce product description by opening with a specific person, moment, or origin story that gives the product emotional meaning, then tying that story to a concrete product detail (materials, attention to craftsmanship, design choice). The story sells the emotional part of the purchase; the detail confirms the story is real.

What is bandwagon bias in marketing?

Bandwagon bias in marketing is the tendency for people to buy what other people are already buying because they want to conform and avoid feeling left out. Stacking review counts, customer testimonials, purchase-count claims (“Join 121,000 shoppers”), and social proof widgets are the practical ways ecommerce stores trigger it.

Why should I write ecommerce copy at a fifth-grade level?

You should write ecommerce copy at a fifth-grade level because simple, easy-to-read words test as more trustworthy and more valuable than complex vocabulary, thanks to the Speakeasy Effect. Big words slow the reader down and read as trying too hard, both of which hurt conversion regardless of your price point.

Are these copywriting tricks manipulative?

These copywriting tricks amplify how a real product is perceived, so they are manipulative only if the underlying product does not deliver. Applied to a product that genuinely solves the customer’s problem, they help the right shopper make a purchase they will be happy with; applied to a bad product, they accelerate refunds and negative reviews.

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469: The Secret Art Of Instantly Connecting With ANYONE With Andrew Warner

469: The Secret Art of Instantly Connecting with ANYONE With Andrew Warner

The fastest way to connect with anyone, even someone far above you in status, is to walk in as a student instead of an expert, name the audience your conversation is really serving, and remove the pressure to perform by asking the other person, up front, what a win looks like for them. That is the entire on-ramp Andrew Warner of Mixergy has used across more than 2,000 interviews with founders like Barbara Corcoran, Gary Vaynerchuk, and Paul Graham, and it is what he lays out in his book Stop Asking Questions.

In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I sat down with Andrew, one of the original interview-podcast pioneers, to unpack the exact people-skills moves he uses to make guests open up, defuse over-rehearsed answers, and turn cold pitches into real relationships. I read his book cover to cover and pulled him on the show because my own business did not start compounding until I started building real relationships with other founders, and Andrew is a master at it.

Below is the full framework, the scripts he uses when a big name will not stop pitching, and the tactic that finally got him to finish a book he had been trying to write for years.

Key takeaways

  • Show up as a student, not an expert, and explicitly tell the other person you are trying to learn from them.
  • Ask “what would make this a win for you?” before the conversation starts so you can align on their goal.
  • When a guest keeps pitching, warn them with a short story about a past guest who bombed by promoting too hard.
  • Call out over-rehearsed answers with appreciation, then follow with a small piece of vulnerability to go deeper.
  • Big-name guests are usually too media-trained to be interesting; the “motivated moment” is when they will show up for free.
  • Use podcasting itself as your learning vehicle. If a topic fascinates you, launching a show is the fastest way to talk to the smartest people in it.
  • A published book is a physical trust object. Keep copies around because people bring them up and pass them on.

How to connect with anyone above your status

The trick to connecting with someone above your status is to remove the pressure of being “good enough” by openly framing yourself as a student who is trying to figure something out on behalf of a real audience. Andrew’s guiding move for the last two decades has been to walk in and say, in plain words, “I do not know this topic, that is why I asked you here, will you help me?”

The reason this works is that it flips the anxiety in the room. A high-status person is usually worried about two things when they say yes to a conversation: are they wasting time with a novice, and will they be used as a mouthpiece.

Naming your own inexperience out loud kills both worries. You are not pretending. You are asking them to teach, which is a role most experts enjoy.

How to make a big-name guest take you seriously when you have no audience

To get a big-name guest to take you seriously when you have no audience, name the specific audience that will still hear this conversation, even if that audience is just one person driving to a job interview at their company. In Andrew’s early days he told founders that his interviews would be the source someone driving to a meeting with them would listen to on the way, or the piece a future grandkid would use to understand family history.

He gave one example on the show. In the earliest Mixergy days he interviewed the founder of JibJab, who showed up in a baseball cap and clearly saw the interview as a favor.

Before hitting record, Andrew told him he was recording something the founder’s grandkids would one day play back to learn how their grandpa got successful. Years later that founder emailed asking for a clean master copy of the interview for his family. The framing worked because it was true, and because it made the conversation feel meaningful in a way that had nothing to do with audience size.

How to get an over-rehearsed guest to open up

To get an over-rehearsed guest to open up, call out the rehearsed answer with genuine appreciation, then follow with a small piece of your own vulnerability so they feel safe going one layer deeper. Andrew’s exact framing is close to, “I have heard you tell that story on other podcasts, I love it, and I want to go a little deeper. The thing I am wrestling with right now is.”

Andrew’s take on the mechanic is that the biggest names in business are basically Mark Cuban tier at repetition. They have told the same story at cocktail parties, on late-night shows, and on 50 previous podcasts.

They are not being dishonest. They are being efficient. Naming that pattern with warmth signals that you did your homework and you are not going to reward the canned answer, which is often enough to pull them off script.

How to stop a guest from turning your interview into an infomercial

To stop a guest from turning your interview into an infomercial, warn them beforehand with a short story about a previous guest who lost the audience by over-promoting. Direct rules like “please do not pitch” do not stick. Stories do.

Andrew’s version sounds something like, “I had a guest on recently, I will not say his name, and he was a promotion machine. My audience hated it, I got hate mail, and it hurt him more than it helped.” Then he offers to handle the promotion himself in the tee-up so the guest does not feel pressure to force it.

He also frontloads alignment by asking the guest before the recording, “What would make this a win for you?” That question makes the guest feel like you are on the same side, which lowers their defensiveness and their urge to grab airtime for their agenda.

Why big-name podcast guests do not automatically move the needle

Big-name podcast guests do not automatically move the needle because they are over-interviewed, over-rehearsed, and their stories have already been told everywhere else your listeners might go. Andrew is direct about this. Most of his best-performing episodes did not come from household names.

Two reasons. First, the audience wants you to do the hard work of surfacing interesting people they cannot find on their own. Second, the same media training that makes a big name safe to book also makes them boring to listen to.

That said, big names still matter for a different job. They put a face on your brand, they buy you association credibility, and, as Andrew explained about wild-posting magazine ads in Manhattan, media has a unique legal right to feature famous people to sell itself.

How to book big-name guests using “motivated moments”

The most reliable way to book a big-name guest for free is to catch them in a “motivated moment,” which is a stretch of time when they want access to your world and would happily show up for exposure alone. Andrew coined the term in Stop Asking Questions to describe exactly this window.

The classic example he gave on the show is Mark Cuban and Blog World back in the early blogging era. Cuban wanted a way into the blogging scene, so he agreed to speak at the conference without a fee, because being on that stage gave him the credibility he was looking for.

Rappers wanting to invest in tech, actors with a new project, authors right before a book launch, and executives entering a new category are all in motivated moments. The playbook is to figure out what someone is trying to break into and offer them a legitimate on-ramp to it.

Why launching a podcast is the fastest way to learn a new field

Launching a podcast is the fastest way to learn a new field because it converts your curiosity into a formal, repeatable reason to spend an hour with the smartest people in that world. Andrew described this exactly with how he learned about DAOs (decentralized autonomous organizations) through his friend Ben Huh at Orange DAO.

He did not read a book about DAOs. He interviewed Ben about the DAO he had built with Y Combinator founders, then interviewed the founder of VC3, and used every conversation to actually understand how member tokens, portfolio access, and pooled capital work.

The podcast is also the ethical excuse to keep asking. In casual conversation it is impolite to keep digging for 45 minutes. In an interview it is expected.

Steve applied the same logic when starting the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, treating early episodes as a way to meet e-commerce founders he otherwise had no reason to approach.

Andrew’s pre-interview vetting process

Andrew still does a pre-interview with almost every guest, and the single filter he uses is whether he is genuinely curious enough to want to use what the person is doing. Not just “is this guest impressive on paper.” Curiosity that could lead to action.

He is comfortable being the person who says no after a pre-interview, even when it is uncomfortable, because the pain of an off-topic episode is worse than the pain of a polite rejection. He often writes the rejection as: “My audience is expecting this specific thing, your story does not fit that right now, if we force it in they will feel cheated and be angry at both of us, so let us come back when the story fits.”

The most common reason he passes is that a founder has inflated their exit or their metrics on social media and the numbers do not survive a real conversation. He calls the small, LinkedIn-only exit a “gentleman’s exit” and says booking a guest whose story you know you will have to challenge on air is a bad deal for everyone.

How Andrew finally finished his book

Andrew finally finished Stop Asking Questions by paying for accountability in two forms: a weekly editor check-in and a Focusmate co-working partner watching him write on webcam for $5 a month. He had tried and abandoned book projects for years because he over-respected the format and would not start.

The unlock was borrowing a system from his friend Robby who used an editor as a weekly commitment device. Andrew hired the same editor’s colleague, wrote alongside her on shared screen sessions, and paired that with a random Focusmate stranger for extra reps.

The other unlock was that he already had the raw material. Over years of doing Mixergy interviews he had built a Google Doc of every technique he had used to get guests to open up, complete with transcript snippets showing each one in action. That doc became the spine of the book.

Why a physical book is a trust object worth keeping around

A physical book acts as a portable trust object, and that is why authors who build businesses keep stacks of their book around and hand them out in person. Andrew was initially skeptical about this, then watched multiple author friends do it well and changed his mind.

He gave three concrete examples. Hal Elrod donated his own books to a school fundraiser and it worked. Chandler Bolt keeps 10-plus copies on his dining room table when he entertains, and guests take them home.

Nick Gray of the Two-Hour Cocktail Party laid out three copies at his parties and asked guests to take a photo of the book if they enjoyed the night.

Steve now applies the same idea to The Family First Entrepreneur, which debuted as a Wall Street Journal business bestseller. A book gives a stranger something tangible to associate you with, and unlike a website URL or a podcast link, it lives on someone’s shelf for years.

The launch playbook Steve used to make The Family First Entrepreneur a WSJ bestseller

Steve’s playbook for hitting the Wall Street Journal bestseller list was to spend years building distribution first, then stack bulk buys, favor-based promotion, and bonuses on launch week. He was open with Andrew about the exact levers.

He grew a YouTube channel to roughly 200,000 subscribers in preparation for the launch, ramped up his Twitter presence, and joined TikTok, all so that on launch day he had multiple owned channels to blast at once. Then he cashed in favors with sponsors and friends for bulk orders, guest appearances, and email blasts to their lists.

The other lever was bonuses. Steve gave away $690 in bonuses (a three-day print-on-demand workshop, a two-day passive-income workshop, invitations to book parties around the US, and access to a six-week live challenge) because, as he put it, people do not buy books, they buy the transformation the book unlocks.

The Family First rule Andrew regrets breaking

Andrew told Steve his one work-life regret is having enjoyed his kids so much in the middle years that he coasted on his existing systems and stopped pushing himself in new directions. He is not advocating for aggressive workaholism, but he also is not advocating for pure balance.

His current stance sits closer to what he calls an “aggressive fear of failure.” He believes his kids need to see him working hard because the work ethic they build for themselves comes largely from watching their parent live it out.

Steve’s answer to the same tension is to run one focused project per year (book, YouTube, Twitter, TikTok) and cap spending at what he actually needs, so there is no financial reason to grind. That gives his ego something to obsess over without letting revenue goals steal his family time.

Frequently asked questions

Who is Andrew Warner and what is Mixergy?

Andrew Warner is the founder and host of Mixergy, one of the original founder-interview podcasts on the internet, with more than 2,000 interviews with entrepreneurs including Barbara Corcoran, Gary Vaynerchuk, and Paul Graham. He is also the author of the book Stop Asking Questions, published in 2021 by Damn Gravity.

What is Andrew Warner’s book Stop Asking Questions about?

Stop Asking Questions is a practical playbook for leading high-impact interviews and getting anyone to open up, drawn from Andrew’s two decades of interviews on Mixergy. It teaches specific conversational moves like the “motivated moment,” how to call out rehearsed answers, and how to align on what a “win” looks like for the other person before you record.

What is a “motivated moment” in an interview?

A motivated moment is a window of time when a high-status person actively wants access to your world and will show up for free because being associated with your audience helps them. Book launches, category pivots, and executives moving into a new industry are all common motivated moments.

How do you get an over-rehearsed guest to open up?

Acknowledge the rehearsed answer with appreciation, tell them you have heard the story elsewhere, and then share a small piece of your own vulnerability to invite them one layer deeper. This signals that you did your homework and are not going to reward the canned reply.

How do you stop a podcast guest from over-promoting during an interview?

Before recording, tell a short story about a past guest who lost the audience by pitching too hard, and offer to handle the promotion yourself in the tee-up so the guest does not feel pressure to jam it in. Ask the guest what a win looks like for them so their agenda is already respected.

What is a DAO in simple terms?

A DAO, or decentralized autonomous organization, is a group of people who pool capital and effort together and use a token-based points system to reward members who contribute more. Orange DAO, run by Y Combinator alumni, invests as a group and lets any member help portfolio companies for token credit.

Why does Andrew keep a physical copy of his book on his desk?

Because a physical book is a tangible trust object that people bring up in conversation, take home, and remember. Chandler Bolt taught Andrew to keep copies around when hosting because guests will take them, and it conveys authority in a way a website or podcast link cannot.

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468: Ecommerce Is Changing And This Is The BIGGEST Opportunity For 2023 – Family First Friday

468: Ecommerce Is Changing And THIS Is The BIGGEST Opportunity For 2023 - Family First Friday

The seven ecommerce trends that matter most in 2023 are personalized email segmentation, SMS marketing, omnichannel selling, mobile-first store design, social commerce on Instagram and TikTok, AI for recommendations and support, and a comeback of direct mail. Ignore any of the seven and you will lose share to competitors who are already using them.

In this Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I walk through each of these shifts using real numbers from my own seven-figure handkerchief store at Bumblebee Linens. You will see the exact customer buckets I use to segment my email list, the SMS engagement numbers I am seeing right now, and the specific AI tools that already run pieces of my store on autopilot.

Below is the full playbook, with every trend, the data behind it, and how I actually use it in my own business.

Key takeaways

  • Segment your email list into four customer buckets and treat each one differently. Getting a second sale is 65% easier than getting the first.
  • SMS marketing has 98% open rates and 36% click rates. My store gets 10x the engagement over email.
  • Sell in as many places as possible. 70% of Amazon shoppers Google the brand before they buy, so you still need your own website.
  • Design your store mobile-first. On Bumblebee Linens, 76% of traffic is mobile.
  • Social commerce is real revenue. 35% of Instagram users will buy on the platform this year and one seller I know does millions selling katana swords on TikTok.
  • AI can automate 70% of your customer service calls, personalize recommendations, optimize inventory, and run your ads through Google Performance Max.
  • Direct mail is back. Response rates are 5x to 9x higher than other channels, and my last postcard campaign returned 16.47x on ad spend.

How personalized email segmentation works for ecommerce in 2023

Personalized email marketing means splitting your customer list into buckets based on purchase behavior, then sending each bucket a different message at a different discount level. At Bumblebee Linens I use four buckets: never-buyers, one-time buyers, brand enthusiasts, and whales.

Never-buyers get the deepest discounts because the goal is a first purchase at any size. Once someone buys once, they are 65% more likely to buy again, so I stop discounting hard and start cross-selling and offering loyalty perks.

Brand enthusiasts, who buy semi-regularly but at small basket sizes, get more frequent emails, curated bundles, and cross-sell suggestions based on what they already own. Whales, the top spenders, get a dedicated rep who calls them on the phone and custom-sourced products on request.

Which ecommerce tool automates email segmentation

Klaviyo is the tool I use to automate this entire segmentation flow because it tracks which products a customer viewed, what they bought, their purchase frequency, and their predicted lifetime value. Once you build your segments and email sequences one time, the whole system runs on autopilot.

A concrete example from my store: I sell matching cocktail, tea, and dinner napkins. If a customer buys cocktail napkins but not the matching dinner size, Klaviyo automatically emails them to complete the set.

Same for hankies. If a customer buys a specific style, Klaviyo recommends similar hankies without me touching anything. That kind of automation is where the personalization trend actually gets its return.

Why SMS marketing is the highest-ROI channel for ecommerce right now

SMS marketing beats every other channel on engagement because 98% of texts get opened and 36% get clicked. Last year 62% of consumers subscribed to receive texts from businesses, and that number is growing 12% year over year.

On my own store I see click-through rates between 15% and 20% on SMS, which is roughly 10 times what my email list delivers. Most consumers are already subscribed to one to five business text lists for shipping notifications, promo codes, and reservation reminders.

Only 55% of businesses use SMS today, but adoption is growing at 27% year over year. If you are not on it yet, the window to grab attention before the channel gets saturated is closing.

Why omnichannel selling is non-negotiable in 2023

Omnichannel selling means listing your products in every place a customer might look for them, because different shoppers have permanent preferences you cannot control. Some people only buy on Amazon, some prefer Etsy, some go to their favorite boutique, and some Google directly.

Do not design a channel strategy based on where you personally shop. Sell on Amazon, eBay, Etsy, and your own site, and use plugins that push your Shopify catalog to Amazon, eBay, and Walmart with synced inventory at the push of a button.

Also, 70% of Amazon shoppers will Google the brand before they buy, because Amazon has become a breeding ground for counterfeits and cheap Chinese junk. If they cannot find a real brand website behind the Amazon listing, they will bounce.

Why your own website still matters when you sell on Amazon

Your own website matters because it is the only property you own, the only place you collect customer data, and the trust signal Amazon shoppers now expect before they hit buy. Selling only on Amazon, eBay, or Etsy is easy in the beginning, which is exactly why it attracts fierce competition and race-to-the-bottom pricing.

The counterintuitive rule of ecommerce is that easy paths get commoditized fast. Anything hard, like operating your own store, running your own email list, and shipping internationally, has a smaller field and higher margins.

Do not stop selling on marketplaces. Add your own store on top, and consider offering internationally, because products that are hyper-competitive in the US often sell easily in Canada or Australia, and Australian buyers tend not to blink at high shipping costs.

Why every ecommerce store must be designed mobile-first

Every ecommerce store must be designed mobile-first because that is where the majority of shopping traffic now lives. On Bumblebee Linens, 76% of visitors come from a mobile phone, and my number is actually low because a large chunk of my customers are over 55.

On this blog, 68% of visits come from mobile. Despite the numbers being obvious for years, most sellers still design for desktop first, then squeeze the layout onto phones as an afterthought.

Two quick fixes make a big difference. Test your checkout on your own phone regularly, because most sellers never do. And use services like PayPal that auto-import the customer’s address so they can check out in one tap, because typing on a phone is where a huge share of mobile carts get abandoned.

How social commerce on Instagram and TikTok drives real ecommerce sales

Social commerce is the act of selling directly inside Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Amazon Live rather than driving traffic back to your website, and it is producing real revenue for ecommerce sellers today. 35% of Instagram users will make a purchase on the platform this year.

TikTok is even more effective. Two out of three users are likely to buy something while on the platform, 50% have bought something after watching a TikTok live, and TikTok users are twice as likely as users of traditional social platforms to recommend a product they discovered on the app.

Concrete examples: a colleague of mine sells millions of dollars a year in katana swords on TikTok alone. My friend Tiffany Ivanovski of Emma Lou’s Boutique does tens of millions per year selling live on Facebook, going live every single day. Amazon Live is doing the same thing inside Amazon.

How ecommerce sellers are using AI in 2023

Ecommerce sellers are using AI in five specific ways in 2023: personalized product recommendations, customer-service chatbots, inventory demand forecasting, dynamic pricing, and automated ad campaigns like Google Performance Max and Facebook Advantage+ Shopping. Each one takes work off your plate.

On my store the chatbot alone handles about 70% of inbound customer questions because the top two questions (“where is my order?” and “when will it ship?”) are perfectly suited to a bot querying our database. AI also predicts demand for our imports, which helps me plan two- to four-month sourcing lead times without being naturally organized.

For ads, I am running Google Performance Max campaigns where I feed Google my product feed and Google’s models decide who sees which product. I have been getting a 3x return on ad spend on Facebook Advantage+ Shopping campaigns without refreshing creative constantly.

Why direct mail marketing is making a comeback for ecommerce

Direct mail marketing is making a comeback because email and paid ads have both saturated, while postcards feel personal and get cut through. 70% of consumers say direct mail feels more personal than online advertising, 54% actively want mail from brands they like, and 42% read or scan every piece they receive.

Direct mail response rates run 5 to 9 times higher than other advertising channels, and 62% of consumers who react to a piece of direct mail end up making a purchase. Those numbers are dramatically better than the industry averages you see on paid social.

At Bumblebee Linens we recently ran a postcard campaign that returned 16.47x on ad spend. If you have a customer list and you are only reaching them by email, adding one printed postcard cycle per year is one of the highest-ROI moves you can make.

Frequently asked questions

What are the biggest ecommerce trends for 2023?

The biggest ecommerce trends for 2023 are personalized email segmentation, SMS marketing, omnichannel selling across your own site plus marketplaces, mobile-first store design, social commerce on Instagram and TikTok, AI for recommendations and support, and a comeback of direct mail marketing.

How much lift does SMS marketing give ecommerce stores?

SMS marketing gets 98% open rates and 36% click-through rates, roughly 10 times the engagement of email in my own store’s data. Business SMS adoption is growing at 27% year over year and consumer opt-ins are growing 12% year over year.

Do I really need my own website if I sell on Amazon?

Yes, because 70% of Amazon shoppers Google the brand before they buy, and Amazon hides your customer data. Your own site is the only property you own, the only place you build a real email list, and the trust signal that stops brand-conscious buyers from bouncing.

What percentage of ecommerce traffic is mobile?

On Bumblebee Linens, 76% of traffic comes from a mobile phone, and my number is on the low side because a big share of my customers are over 55. On the My Wife Quit Her Job blog, 68% of visits come from mobile.

How are ecommerce sellers using AI right now?

Sellers are using AI for personalized product recommendations, customer-service chatbots that handle 70% of common questions, demand forecasting for inventory, dynamic price testing, and automated ad campaigns like Google Performance Max and Facebook Advantage+ Shopping.

Is direct mail marketing worth it for ecommerce in 2023?

Yes. Direct mail response rates run 5 to 9 times higher than digital advertising channels, 62% of consumers who react to a piece of direct mail end up buying, and my last postcard campaign at Bumblebee Linens returned 16.47x on ad spend.

What is the best tool for automating ecommerce email segmentation?

Klaviyo is the tool I use at Bumblebee Linens because it tracks browsing behavior, purchase history, order frequency, and predicted lifetime value, then triggers automated flows like cross-sell reminders and lapsed-buyer wins. Once your segments and flows are built one time, the system runs on autopilot.

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467: Vietnam: The Untold Gold Mine For Sourcing You’ve Been Ignoring With Jim Kennemer

467: Vietnam: The Untold Gold Mine for Sourcing You've Been Ignoring With Jim Kennemer

To source products from Vietnam, focus on categories Vietnam actually specializes in (textiles, wooden goods, furniture, bags, and shoes), find factories through Google, the Vietnamese Yellow Pages, trade shows, LinkedIn, and customs databases like ImportGenius, then expect to run a more proactive outreach process than you would in China because most Vietnamese factories do not have dedicated sales staff. Plan on roughly $20,000 in minimum capital for a first textile order and MOQs around 500 to 1,000 units per style.

In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I sat down with Jim Kennemer, founder of Cosmos Sourcing, who has helped clients source more than $100 million worth of product from China and Vietnam. Jim moved to Vietnam in 2014 and now has a bilingual team on the ground in Binh Duong province, right outside Ho Chi Minh City.

Below is the full guide he walked me through, including which products to source from Vietnam over China, how to actually find and vet a factory, real MOQs by category, and how his flat-fee sourcing model at Cosmos Sourcing works.

Key takeaways

  • Vietnam is roughly the same price to 10% cheaper than China now, and the real savings show up when your product hits a China tariff list.
  • Vietnam specializes in textiles, clothing, wooden goods, furniture, bags, backpacks, purses, and shoes.
  • There is no Alibaba equivalent in Vietnam. Use Google, the Vietnamese Yellow Pages, ImportGenius, LinkedIn, trade shows, and Zalo.
  • Expect MOQs around 500 units for bags, 200 units for handmade or premium items, and 1,000 units per style for clothing.
  • Vietnamese factories often reply through an engineer, not a salesperson, so expect direct, in-and-out communication.
  • Budget roughly $20,000 in minimum capital for a starter textile order out of Vietnam.
  • Hire a third-party inspection company like QIMA, Tesco, or Vietnam Inspection Service (roughly $300 to $400 per visit) to vet any factory before you wire money.

Why source products from Vietnam instead of China

You should source from Vietnam instead of China when your product falls under a US tariff list, when you want more political stability, or when your category (wooden goods, textiles, furniture, bags, shoes) is one Vietnam does exceptionally well. Post-2017 tariffs, this is the biggest lever, because Vietnam pricing usually lands anywhere from equal to 10% cheaper than China, and the tariff differential is where the real math flips.

Vietnam also managed COVID with fewer full lockdowns than China and hit roughly 80% vaccination coverage within two months of vaccine availability, according to Jim, which meant less supply-chain disruption. Big brands have followed the pattern. Patagonia, North Face, Tory Burch, Michael Kors, and Lululemon all manufacture heavily in Vietnam.

Foreign ownership is also easier. Unlike China, foreign companies and individuals can own factories outright in Vietnam, so you will find Japanese-owned, South Korean-owned, Indonesian-owned, Danish-owned, and French-owned factories operating there, often combining Japanese-style efficiency with lower Vietnamese labor costs.

Which products Vietnam specializes in

Vietnam specializes in textiles, clothing, wooden goods (furniture, rattan, bamboo, teak, acacia, rubberwood), bags of every kind (leather, canvas, backpacks, purses), shoes, and metal goods like fasteners, bolts, nuts, and screws. Wood in particular is Jim’s top recommendation because Vietnam is a tropical country with plentiful plantation forests and very high-quality tropical hardwoods.

Bags are Vietnam’s clearest textile win. The same factories that make Patagonia and North Face backpacks and Tory Burch and Michael Kors purses will make yours, using both mature high-volume production lines and newer technology.

Categories to avoid or think twice about include low-MOQ small orders across most categories, electronics of any complexity (China is still stronger), and any OEM electronic build. Shoes used to be great for small orders but post-COVID the shoe factories have pushed MOQs up to several thousand units minimum.

What MOQs to expect when sourcing from Vietnam

Expect Vietnamese factory MOQs in the range of 200 to 1,000 units for most categories, higher for shoes. Handmade or premium items run lowest. Assembly-line categories run highest.

Bags cluster around 500 units per style for a simple design. High-end handmade items, like the ultralight hiking backpack Jim’s team produced (retail near $1,000, cost around $200), can go as low as 200 units.

Clothing MOQs typically run 1,000 units per style per size, with some factories going to 2,000 units for a broader style mix. Handmade leather briefcases and luxury purses can start smaller because there is no assembly-line setup required.

How to find a supplier in Vietnam

To find a supplier in Vietnam, use Google (unlike China, it works), the Vietnamese Yellow Pages, LinkedIn, trade shows, and customs databases like ImportGenius or Panjiva to pull importer/exporter records. There is no Alibaba equivalent for Vietnam, so you have to run outreach yourself.

Jim’s team also gets a lot of leads simply by being on the ground in Binh Duong province, next to Ho Chi Minh City’s industrial zone, where local events and physical proximity produce leads that never make it online. If you are not on the ground, you are relying on cold outreach.

Expect a hit rate of roughly 10 to 15 responses per 50 factories contacted. Vietnamese factories are less proactive about chasing new business than Chinese factories, so you have to be more persistent, use multiple channels (email, WhatsApp, Zalo, LinkedIn, phone), and follow up three or four times per factory.

How to write the first outreach email to a Vietnamese factory

Your first outreach email to a Vietnamese factory should be a formal request for quote (RFQ) that names your country, states your product and target order quantity, confirms you have design files and product spec sheets ready, and asks for a firm quote and lead time. Do not send the files in the first email. Just confirm you have them.

Jim’s exact framing looks like: “I am so-and-so, we are a US-based buyer looking to produce X women’s dresses. We have the design files and product spec sheets ready. Are you able to quote us for an order of 1,000 units?”

Factories will not take you seriously if you tell them you plan to develop the specs later. Signaling that you have real files behind the request is what gets a serious response, and the RFQ format is how professional buyers ask everywhere.

How to vet a Vietnam factory before you wire money

To vet a Vietnam factory before you wire money, hire a third-party inspection company like QIMA, Tesco, or Vietnam Inspection Service for a roughly $300 to $400 factory visit, and cross-check the factory’s business license and banking status through the government-run Vietnam Credit service. That inspection is cheap compared to the sample fee you are about to pay and the production run that follows.

The inspection company will check business registration, equipment, machinery, prior order history in your product category, and whether the factory has actually made products similar to yours. If you are doing pre-production, they will grade the setup pass/fail on every criterion.

Also confirm relevant certifications yourself. ISO 9001 is the baseline, and wooden goods need Lacey Act compliance, a certificate of origin, and ideally FSC (Forest Stewardship Council) certification. Textiles have carcinogen restrictions, and any category can require ASTM certifications depending on the destination market.

What questions to ask when vetting a Vietnam factory

The three questions to ask when vetting a Vietnam factory are: (1) do you have experience exporting to my country, (2) which industry certifications do you hold, and (3) can you produce the specific certificates of origin, testing, or compliance my product category requires. If they cannot answer confidently, walk away or hire an inspection company to answer for you.

Ask for their client list too, because most reputable export factories will tell you who they have shipped to. Big-brand names on that list are a strong trust signal, and it doubles as social proof for your own compliance team later.

Payment terms are almost always in US dollars. Vietnamese bank accounts can hold foreign currencies, and given inflation on the dong, factories love USD.

How to communicate with Vietnam factories after first contact

Communicate with Vietnam factories using email as the initial channel, then Zalo (Vietnam’s WhatsApp equivalent) or WhatsApp for day-to-day updates, and LinkedIn for reaching decision-makers when other channels stall. Jim’s team runs a “full court press” across every channel to get an initial quote out of promising factories.

The tone will feel different from China. Many Vietnamese factories do not staff dedicated salespeople, so your first contact might be an engineer who checks email once a week between production shifts.

The upside is that engineer contact is often faster and more accurate on technical questions, because you are talking to the person who actually makes the product. The downside is that engineers do not woo you the way a Chinese salesperson does, and some Western buyers mistake that for disinterest.

Trade-offs of sourcing from Vietnam versus China

The biggest trade-off of sourcing from Vietnam versus China is that Vietnam requires far more proactive outreach and factory hunting, but rewards you with lower tariff exposure, higher-quality textiles and wood, and easier foreign ownership rules. China is easier for first-time buyers because Alibaba puts thousands of factories in front of you in minutes.

Vietnam has no equivalent to Alibaba Trade Assurance, so you cannot outsource vendor vetting to a marketplace. Vietnamese buyers historically do not trust Chinese-based platforms, so those never took off locally.

On production, Vietnam is very consistent once you are in a working relationship. There is still a workforce disruption around Tet (Vietnamese Lunar New Year, same date as Chinese New Year), because workers sign one-year contracts that end at Tet, but Jim rates it as less severe than the post-Chinese-New-Year workforce churn he saw in China.

How much capital you need to start sourcing from Vietnam

You need roughly $20,000 in minimum capital to place a first textile production order out of Vietnam. That covers a real MOQ, sample fees, initial deposit, freight, and duties for a starter clothing or bag run at typical Vietnamese MOQs.

For lower-cost handmade or premium categories with lower MOQs (200 units of a high-end backpack, small runs of handmade leather goods), you can go in for less. Higher-volume clothing runs of 1,000 to 2,000 units per style push you higher.

For first-time buyers with less capital, China is often still easier because MOQs are lower across more categories and marketplaces make vendor discovery essentially free. Vietnam is the better move once you have a proven product and want to scale off China tariff exposure.

How Cosmos Sourcing works and what it costs

Cosmos Sourcing charges a flat fee starting at $1,500 USD per product category (one factory), with a pro tier around $2,000 USD when you need certification work or more complex sourcing. Unlike commission-based sourcing agents, Cosmos gives you the full contact details of every factory it introduces you to and lets you work directly with the factory.

Jim runs it flat-fee for a specific reason. When he tried a commission model in Vietnam, factories pushed back because Vietnamese factories do not trust middlemen the way Chinese factories tolerate them. Vietnamese factories expect to deal with the end client, so Jim’s structure aligns with local norms.

The team also handles factory visits, referrals to freight forwarders and inspection companies, and sample checks when clients ship samples to their office. For most product categories, a single Cosmos engagement covers multiple SKUs made by the same factory (for example, 10 women’s dress styles produced in one clothing factory count as one project).

Other Southeast Asia sourcing countries to watch

The Southeast Asian sourcing countries worth watching after Vietnam are Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Taiwan, with Bangladesh and Pakistan lower on Jim’s list. Cosmos is actively looking at expanding into the first four.

Taiwan is already mature at the high end. TSMC is the biggest microchip factory in the world, and Taiwan handles very high-precision projects like LED casings for airplane parts.

Indonesia is strong for shoes. Thailand is worth a look for clothing. Bangladesh is a textile powerhouse but Jim personally does not trust the supply chain governance there, which is a reasonable concern given the industry’s track record.

Frequently asked questions

Is it cheaper to source products from Vietnam than from China?

Vietnam is roughly the same price to about 10% cheaper than China on comparable products, and the real savings appear when your product is on a US tariff list against China. Vietnam labor costs have risen significantly since 2014 when Jim was seeing 30% to 40% savings.

What products should I source from Vietnam?

Source textiles, clothing, wooden goods, furniture, bags, backpacks, purses, shoes at scale, and metal fasteners from Vietnam. The country’s tropical hardwoods (teak, acacia, bamboo, rubberwood) and its huge cut-and-sew factories are its clearest strengths.

How do I find factories in Vietnam without Alibaba?

Use Google (it works in Vietnam), the Vietnamese Yellow Pages, LinkedIn, trade shows, and paid customs data services like ImportGenius or Panjiva. Expect to contact 50 factories to get 10 to 15 responses, and expect to follow up multiple times through email, WhatsApp, Zalo, and phone.

What is a typical MOQ when sourcing from Vietnam?

Typical Vietnam MOQs are around 500 units for bags, 1,000 units per style per size for clothing, 200 units for handmade or premium items, and several thousand units for most current shoe factories. High-value handmade items can start smaller because no assembly line has to be set up.

How much capital do I need to source products from Vietnam?

You need roughly $20,000 in minimum starter capital for a first textile order out of Vietnam, covering MOQ, samples, deposit, freight, and duties. Lower-cost handmade categories with lower MOQs can start below that, and clothing runs of 1,000 to 2,000 units push higher.

How do I vet a Vietnam factory before I place an order?

Hire a third-party inspection company like QIMA, Tesco, or Vietnam Inspection Service for roughly $300 to $400 to visit the factory in person, and cross-check the factory’s business registration and banking status through the government-run Vietnam Credit service. That upfront investment is trivial compared to the deposit you are about to wire.

What is Zalo and why do Vietnam factories use it?

Zalo is Vietnam’s dominant local messaging app, roughly equivalent to WhatsApp or WeChat, and it is the primary chat channel most Vietnamese factories use for daily communication. If a factory does not respond to email, adding them on Zalo is often the fastest way to reach a real person.

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466: Outdated Ecommerce Tips You Should NOT Be Doing In 2023 – Family First Friday

466: Outdated Ecommerce Tips You Should NOT Be Doing In 2023 | Stop Doing These Now!

The eight outdated ecommerce strategies you should stop doing in 2023 are: relying on a single platform for all your sales, AliExpress dropshipping, paying for Amazon Automation services, running Amazon giveaways or soliciting reviews, using public rebate sites, over-spending on customer acquisition while ignoring existing customers, going all-in on paid ads instead of content, and picking whatever product is easy instead of what has a real moat.

In this Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, I go through each of these dead or dying tactics and explain why they no longer work, using real examples from my own store at Bumblebee Linens and from friends who lived through the pain. If you are just starting out and consuming ecommerce advice on YouTube, Google, or TikTok, most of what you are reading was written when these tactics still worked and never got updated.

Below is the full list, with what to do instead of each dead tactic.

Key takeaways

  • Stop relying on Amazon, eBay, or Etsy as your only sales channel. Diversify, and always own your own website.
  • Stop dropshipping from AliExpress. Shipping is measured in weeks, margins are thin, and it violates most marketplace terms of service.
  • Stop paying for Amazon Automation services. Almost every case has scam signals, and most Amazon aggregators went bankrupt in the last downturn.
  • Stop soliciting or incentivizing Amazon reviews. Amazon banned RebateKey and warns any account that touches paid review services.
  • Stop spending your marketing budget on acquisition only. Selling to existing customers is 66% cheaper.
  • Stop leaning entirely on paid ads. Content compounds. My YouTube channel makes over $300K on ads alone, and my blog earns seven figures a year on affiliate and course sales.
  • Stop asking what is easy. Ask what is hard, because hard is what has fewer competitors and a real moat.

Stop relying on Amazon, eBay, or Etsy for all your sales

Relying on a single marketplace for all your sales is the fastest way to lose your business overnight because Amazon, eBay, and Etsy can change their policies or algorithms without warning and tank your revenue instantly. Amazon in particular does not care about you. There are thousands of malicious sellers who game the system to sabotage other sellers, and Amazon rarely helps until you spend years in litigation.

My friend Kevin Williams runs Brush Hero, a cleaning-brush company. A Chinese knockoff seller copied his entire product line, including the packaging with his photo on it, and sold a crappier version on his own listing at half the price.

Kevin sent Amazon his patents and copyrights. Amazon did nothing. It took him two years and multiple million-dollar lawsuits to get action, and by then the damage to his brand was done.

My friend John Rampton lost a multi-million dollar container business the day Amazon banned his account for life.

At Bumblebee Linens, every holiday season we get sellers who buy out our inventory to block us from selling, then return everything in January after the season. Marketplaces are useful, but they are rented land. The only real property you own is your own website.

Stop dropshipping from AliExpress

AliExpress dropshipping is dead as a long-term ecommerce model because shipping times run weeks to months, product quality is inconsistent, margins are thin, counterfeit risk is on you, and every major marketplace bans it in their terms of service. Amazon, eBay, and Etsy will all suspend you the moment they catch it.

Faster shipping options exist, but they usually cost more than the product itself, which kills margin. Most AliExpress sellers do not enforce quality control, so you end up shipping junk to your customers under your own brand. If any item turns out to be counterfeit, you are liable, not AliExpress.

The bigger structural problem is competition. Thousands of dropshippers list the same AliExpress products at the same time, prices race to the bottom, and you end up jumping from one fad product to the next with no repeat customers. Dropshipping in general is not a great long-term model, and AliExpress is the worst version of it.

Stop paying for Amazon Automation services

Amazon Automation services are the outsourced-store scams that flooded YouTube ads a few years back, where a company builds an Amazon store for you in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars up front plus a profit split. Almost every one of them has scam written on it, and even the legitimate ones failed when the aggregator bubble burst.

The tell is simple. If a company can actually pick a winning product and build a profitable Amazon store from scratch, why would they hand you half the profit instead of just running the store themselves? The answer, in most cases, is that they cannot, and their revenue model is the upfront fee, not the store.

Even the legitimate aggregators, which raised hundreds of millions of dollars during the 2020 to 2021 boom to buy and operate Amazon FBA brands, mostly went bankrupt when interest rates rose and organic ranking got harder. If a service sounds like it should not work, it usually does not.

Stop soliciting Amazon reviews or running giveaways

Soliciting Amazon reviews or running giveaways to inflate rank is a dead strategy because Amazon has cracked down on both hard and will suspend the account or the listing if it catches you. The only allowed play now is Amazon’s own “Request a Review” button in Seller Central, which sends a single canned email asking for an unbiased review.

Giveaway spam used to work. Sellers would launch a product, blast free units through third-party giveaway sites to spike sales velocity, and ride the ranking bump. That loophole is closed, and the accounts that still try it get penalized.

Amazon’s newer terms make the boundary explicit: “Manipulating sales rank, such as by accepting fake orders or orders that you have paid for, or making claims about sales rank in product titles or descriptions is against terms of service.” Anything that even smells like paid-for velocity is risk-on.

Stop using public Amazon rebate sites

Public Amazon rebate sites are done because Amazon banned the largest one, RebateKey, and sent warning letters to every seller account that had used a paid rebate service. Rebates used to be a legal grey-area workaround: a buyer paid full price, kept the review moving, and got refunded via PayPal, giving the seller a real full-price sale that boosted rankings.

Amazon now treats that entire pattern as sales rank manipulation, and the specific line in the terms is worded broadly enough to catch any variant. A few sellers still run private, off-platform rebate arrangements, but nothing that looks like a public rebate marketplace is worth the account risk.

If your listing needs a velocity push, get it from real advertising and real content, not from paid buyers. The math on a suspended account is always worse than the math on organic launch.

Stop spending everything on customer acquisition and ignore existing customers

Spending everything on customer acquisition while ignoring existing customers is one of the most expensive mistakes in ecommerce because selling to a repeat customer is 66% less expensive than acquiring a new one. They already know your brand, they already trust you, they already opened their wallet, and reaching them costs a single email or SMS.

Repeat customers also spend more per order over time, refer more friends, and become the loudest word-of-mouth channel you own. On average a happy customer tells at least nine people about their experience with your brand.

The other underrated benefit is customer intelligence. Once I actually started calling existing customers at Bumblebee Linens, I discovered that many of them were event and wedding planners buying in bulk. Special treatment for that segment converts one-time buyers into lifetime whales.

Stop leaning entirely on paid ads and invest in content

Paid ads are still useful, but you cannot build a durable ecommerce business on them alone because CPMs on Google and Facebook rise every year, iOS 14 gutted Facebook attribution, and traffic stops the moment your ad spend stops. Content, by contrast, compounds for years.

Three years ago I started a YouTube channel. Today it earns over $300,000 a year on YouTube ads alone. My blog at mywifequitherjob.com earns seven figures a year on affiliate marketing and course sales, and the specific blog posts driving that revenue were written 10 years ago and are still ranking today.

The mechanism is trust. A shopper who watches one of my videos or reads one of my posts arrives already convinced that I know what I am talking about, which raises conversion when I recommend a product. Pick a medium (YouTube, blogging, or a specific social platform) and post consistently.

Stop underusing email and SMS to convert visitors

If you are creating content but not capturing email and SMS from your visitors, you are wasting the traffic because the average ecommerce conversion rate is only about 2%, which means 98% of visitors leave without buying. A lead magnet like a first-order coupon or free shipping in exchange for an email address is the highest-leverage move you can make on your store today.

The math is that most visitors are not ready to buy on the first visit. Consistent, valuable email and SMS follow-up keeps you top of mind, and when they eventually do want to buy, you are the store they open first.

Email and SMS also let you promote products, run flash discounts, deliver useful content, and re-engage lapsed buyers. These are customers you own, and no marketplace, ad platform, or algorithm change can take them away.

Stop chasing what is easy in ecommerce

The single worst question a new ecommerce founder can ask is “what is easy,” because easy is exactly what has zero barrier to entry and infinite competition. Ask instead “what is hard, expensive, or painful that I am willing to do anyway,” because that is where the moat lives.

Dropshipping is easy. Anyone can list the same AliExpress product on Shopify tomorrow. When 10 stores sell the same product, the shopper picks the cheapest, so prices race to the bottom until nobody makes money.

At Bumblebee Linens we run custom embroidery in-house. We own five embroidery machines that cost over $10,000 each, they need constant recalibration, threads snap all the time, and the machines chew up expensive product on bad runs.

It is a pain in the butt to operate. That is exactly why almost no competitor will bother copying it, and Chinese sellers cannot offer it from 20,000 miles away.

Stop throwing up random products without a value proposition

Throwing random unbranded products onto Amazon and hoping to catch a wave is a dead strategy in 2023 because product research tools like Jungle Scout have made every hot niche discoverable, and any product that works gets copied inside months. Unless you have a unique value proposition (UVP) and a brand, the copies will eat you alive.

A UVP does not have to mean “better.” It just has to mean “different in a way a specific buyer cares about.” At Bumblebee Linens, my UVP is the largest handkerchief selection on the internet, because nobody else specializes in hankies at that depth.

My friend Dave at Saddleback Leather sells bags, which is a total commodity category. His UVP is that his bags outlive you. His actual slogan is “they’ll fight over it when you’re dead.” That single positioning line has built the entire brand.

Frequently asked questions

Is AliExpress dropshipping still a viable ecommerce business model?

No. AliExpress dropshipping is not a viable long-term ecommerce model because shipping takes weeks, quality control is poor, margins are thin, counterfeit liability sits on you, and dropshipping from AliExpress violates the terms of service on Amazon, eBay, and Etsy.

Should I still sell on Amazon in 2023?

Yes, you should still sell on Amazon, but never as your only channel. Sell on Amazon and eBay and Etsy and your own website, because Amazon can suspend accounts, hide customer data, and change fee structures at any time, and diversification is the only insurance you can buy.

Is Amazon Automation a scam?

Most Amazon Automation services are scams or come close, because the business model of “we build and run your Amazon store for a large upfront fee plus profit share” makes no sense for the operator if they could actually pick a winning product themselves. Most of the legitimate aggregators from the 2020 to 2021 boom have also gone bankrupt.

Can I still buy Amazon reviews or use rebate sites to rank?

No. Amazon banned the largest public rebate site, RebateKey, updated its terms to prohibit “manipulating sales rank” through paid or fake orders, and warned every account that had used a paid rebate service. The account risk is not worth it.

Is selling to existing customers really cheaper than acquiring new ones?

Yes. Selling to an existing customer is roughly 66% cheaper than acquiring a new one because they already know and trust your brand, so a single email or SMS is often enough to trigger a repeat purchase. They also spend more per order over time and drive word-of-mouth referrals.

Should I focus on content or paid ads for my ecommerce store?

Both, with content as the long-term core. Paid ads are expensive and stop working the moment you stop paying, while content compounds for years. My YouTube channel earns over $300,000 a year on ads alone and my blog earns seven figures on affiliate and course sales from posts written years ago.

What is a unique value proposition (UVP) in ecommerce?

A unique value proposition is the specific reason a shopper picks your product over an identical-looking competitor. It does not have to mean “better.” It has to mean “different in a way a specific buyer cares about,” like Bumblebee Linens having the largest handkerchief selection online or Saddleback Leather selling bags with a lifetime slogan.

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465: The Secret Sauce Of Successful Amazon Sellers: How To Rank Your Products In Search With Brandon Young

465: The Secret Sauce of Successful Amazon Sellers: How to Find High-Demand, Low-Competition Products With Brandon Young

Amazon product research works by answering one question in data form: how are the current top sellers actually getting their sales? In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, eight-figure Amazon seller Brandon Young walks through the exact matrix he uses to reverse-engineer any niche, prioritize the keywords that drive real revenue, and consistently land on page one for hundreds of terms in the first week of launch.

Brandon and his wife Jennifer went from arbitrage in 2015 to $22 million in Amazon revenue last year across roughly 250 to 300 active SKUs. He is also the co-founder of Data Dive, the software the couple built to automate the manual competitor-and-keyword mapping they used to run in spreadsheets for hours per product.

Here is the full framework: how to evaluate a niche, how the honeymoon period actually works, how listing writing distributes ranking credit, and the quantifiable scorecard Brandon uses to decide whether a product is worth pursuing.

Key takeaways

  • The million-dollar question in Amazon product research is “how are the current sellers getting their sales?” Build a matrix of the top 20 competitors, every keyword they rank for, their positions, and the search volume behind each keyword.
  • Brandon and Jennifer Young grew from arbitrage in 2015 to $22 million in Amazon revenue last year, with a hit rate of 70 to 75 percent on new products and a reorder rate around 40 percent.
  • Margin compression is real. Tacos (total advertising cost of sales) rose from an average of 11 percent to 16 percent, and single-digit-margin months are now normal outside of Q4.
  • Preserve the Amazon honeymoon period by setting your listing launch date a year in the future when you create the SKU, then flipping it to live only when inventory is ready and the listing is fully populated.
  • Amazon distributes ranking credit by keyword position and match type: the beginning of the title outranks the middle, the title outranks the bullets, and exact-order phrases outrank stuffed variants at roughly 100 percent versus 30 percent credit.
  • Reviews are less decisive than most sellers think. If everyone in the top 10 has 1,000+ reviews, that is a minus 100 on the scorecard, not a deal-breaker, because superior SEO can still beat them.
  • Budget rule of thumb: a $5 landed-cost product selling 30 units a day needs about $30,000 to cover three months of inventory plus a reorder and marketing.

Who is Brandon Young and how did he build a $22M Amazon business?

Brandon Young is an eight-figure Amazon private-label seller and the co-founder of Data Dive, an Amazon keyword-research software with about 2,000 paid users at recording time. He and his wife Jennifer grew their brands from arbitrage in 2015 to $22 million in Amazon revenue last year across roughly 250 to 300 SKUs, with a toy brand as the largest.

They started by scanning products in stores with an FBA app and sending them into Amazon. When two of their biggest categories (Kate Spade and DeWalt tools) got gated, Jennifer’s Chinese language skills and family sourcing contacts pushed them into private label. They flew to Canton in 2016, picked electronics (which turned out to be a mistake because of competition), and scaled through the years from $1 million to $3 million to $6 million to $12 million to $22 million.

Data Dive was born out of the manual work Brandon was already doing for his own brands and teaching in his Seller Systems course. The spreadsheet process took hours per product; Data Dive collapses it to about 90 seconds.

What is the honeymoon period on Amazon and how do you preserve it?

The Amazon honeymoon period is the first 30 to 60 days after a new listing goes live, during which Amazon has no performance history and is trying to figure out where the product belongs in the catalog. Amazon’s ranking algorithm is performance times relevancy. Performance is click-through rate, conversion rate, and revenue.

The mistake most sellers make is creating the listing months before inventory arrives. From the day it goes live, Amazon accumulates history on that ASIN, so a listing that sits with zero sales for three months has already banked a wall of zeros.

To preserve the honeymoon, set the launch and start date a year into the future when you first create the SKU, populate only the bare minimum, and only flip it live (with the full listing content) the day before your first inventory arrives. If clicking the listing in your inventory tab shows an Amazon dog page (“URL can’t be found”), the honeymoon is still intact.

How does Amazon distribute ranking credit across your listing?

Amazon distributes ranking credit by keyword position on your listing and by match type. Every action on your product (impression, click, add-to-cart, review view, conversion) triggers a fixed pool of credit that gets distributed across the keywords Amazon believes your listing targets. How you wrote the listing determines how much of that credit each keyword actually receives.

The hierarchy runs top to bottom: the beginning of the title outranks the middle of the title, the title outranks the bullets, the bullets outrank the backend search-term fields, and the backend outranks the description. Placement matters as much as inclusion.

Match type matters just as much. An exact-order phrase like “diaper bag backpack” gets full credit for that keyword; a scrambled variant like “backpack for diaper bag” only earns roughly 30 percent because Amazon treats it as a broad match. Sellers who stuff their titles with jumbled combinations think they are covering more ground and are actually giving up two-thirds of their ranking juice on their biggest keywords.

Step 1: Map the top 20 competitors and their keywords

Start by identifying the top 20 sellers in the niche and pulling every keyword they rank for, the position of each rank, and the search volume behind each keyword. Line them all up in one matrix so you can see the full picture of what is driving sales.

Historically Brandon built this manually with Seller Tools, Viral Launch search volume, and later Helium 10’s Cerebro reverse ASIN pulls. He would VLOOKUP the ranks together, use a COUNT-IF formula to see how many of the top competitors ranked well for each keyword (his simple proxy for keyword relevancy), then sort by search volume.

The output is a keyword-by-competitor matrix that shows every seller’s search-volume coverage as a percentage. If the third-best seller is on 60 percent of the niche’s search volume and the fifth-best is on 68 percent but sells fewer units, the story does not add up. That gap is where outside traffic, TikTok virality, or affiliate links are typically hiding.

Step 2: Look for outliers to check that the sales story makes sense

Once you have the matrix, hunt for outliers. If one seller is significantly outperforming what their keyword coverage predicts, something outside the Amazon SERP is driving those sales, and you cannot copy it.

A TikTok sensation shows up as a cluster of branded and descriptive-viral keywords with meaningful search volume that no other seller ranks for. Brandon points to a vampire-shaped garlic press from an aggregator called Branded: “vampire garlic press” and “Dracula garlic press” each pull thousands of monthly searches because viewers cannot remember the brand name.

An affiliate-driven or off-Amazon campaign shows up differently. It looks like similar keyword coverage across sellers but wildly different unit sales, with no branded outliers and no descriptive-viral outliers to explain the gap. If the story does not add up in the data, assume the leader has a channel you cannot replicate and price the risk in.

Step 3: Score the niche against your ROI and budget requirements

Before you commit, run the niche against your own risk and cash limits. Getting into a product that needs more capital than you have is the fastest way to light money on fire.

Take a $5 landed-cost product where the third through seventh best sellers average 1,000 units a month between them (about 30 a day each). Three months of inventory at 30 units per day is 1,000 units, which is $5,000. Double that for your next order plus marketing and launch spend and you need roughly $30,000 to enter that niche responsibly.

If the target is a category like vitamin C serum where established players are spending millions on PPC and playing the lifetime-value game, you avoid the top 20 entirely. The 21st through 35th best sellers are almost always beatable on SEO and images because they are not fully optimized.

Step 4: Prioritize keywords by root word, relevancy, and match type

A reverse-ASIN lookup dumps hundreds of keywords into your lap; the value is in prioritizing them. Brandon’s formula weights each keyword by how many competitors rank well for it (relevancy) and by the broad search volume of the root word it belongs to.

For a diaper bag, “diaper bag backpack” might show up in 200 of 400 pulled keywords, while “baby bag” shows up 34 times with 50,000 in search volume. Both matter, but they belong in different parts of the listing and in different match types. The higher-relevance, higher-volume phrases go to the front of the title in exact match; secondary root words go to bullets and backend.

Data Dive scores this with a “ranking juice score” it calculates for both your listing and every competitor. You can see, keyword by keyword, which phrases you hit, which you missed, and in what match type each was hit.

The garlic press case study: how KitchenAid leaves 25 to 40 percent on the table

Brandon uses a garlic press dive to show what a listing miss looks like on a real brand. KitchenAid and Oxo are $2 billion companies that dominate most garlic-press-adjacent keywords, but they do not write the phrase “garlic mincer” into their titles, and mincer is the second most-searched way of describing that product (garlic crusher is third).

For every “garlic press” keyword, KitchenAid ranks top five. For every “garlic mincer” keyword, they sit between rank 25 and 45, in what Brandon calls the “maybe zone,” where Amazon is not sure their listing is relevant enough to promote. Their title says “crushes, minces and slices garlic,” which is close to “garlic mincer” but not close enough for Amazon to promote them.

Adding “garlic mincer” verbatim to the title, Brandon estimates, would immediately lift their sales by 25 to 40 percent. That is the size of the gap that keyword-order mistakes can cost, even on a category leader.

Comparison: manual reverse-ASIN research vs the Data Dive matrix

StepManual (spreadsheet)Data Dive matrix
Pull top 20 competitor keywords10 competitors at a time via Cerebro, VLOOKUP into one sheetOne dive, all 20 competitors, 90 seconds
Count relevant competitors per keywordCOUNT-IF formula by handAuto-calculated with color coding
Root-word frequency + broad search volumeManual regex or word-count passesGrouped and sorted by root word
Ranking juice score for your listingEstimate by handQuantified score for you and every competitor
Time per product1 to 2 hoursRoughly 90 seconds plus review
Niche scorecard (go / no-go)Gut feelPositive score 50-250, negative score 50-250, quantified

What the Data Dive scorecard actually measures

The Data Dive niche scorecard is a checklist that assigns positive and negative points across factors that historically decided whether one of Brandon’s products succeeded. Positive scores run 50 to 250; negative scores run 50 to 250; you fill it out and get a final number.

Positive factors include the number of root words in the niche, ROI potential, opportunity to differentiate on packaging or fulfillment cost, and the count of competitors with weak listings. Negative factors include heavy review counts (top six or eight sellers with 1,000+ reviews scores about minus 100), highly sophisticated A+ content across the top, and competitive PPC bid density.

Unlike the black-box “opportunity scores” other tools display, Data Dive’s scorecard is not automated yet. You fill in the boxes, and the number is only as good as the data you feed in. Brandon’s advice for new users: score 30 products before deciding what a “good” score is for you.

What are honest Amazon margins in 2026?

Amazon margins in the current environment are compressed compared to a few years ago. Tacos (total advertising cost of sales) has moved from around 11 percent to 16 percent across Brandon’s catalog, which is a 5-point hit to the bottom line before you touch any other cost.

Plastic and other raw-material costs are still up roughly 50 percent from pre-2022 levels even though container freight has normalized to around $2,000. Brandon’s launch months in March and April last year actually lost money as they pushed new summer products; several other months landed in single-digit margins after overhead and one-time costs.

Q4 is where the year gets made. A SKU sitting at 15 to 20 percent margin for eight or nine months typically hits 30 to 35 percent in November and December on high enough volume to carry the annual P&L.

Frequently asked questions

What is the best way to research a product to sell on Amazon?

The best way to research a product to sell on Amazon is to map the top 20 sellers in the niche in a matrix showing every keyword they rank for, their position, and the search volume of each keyword. That reveals how each seller is actually getting their sales, where the outliers are (viral, affiliate, off-Amazon), and where the low-hanging keyword-and-listing gaps sit for you to attack.

How do you rank a new Amazon product on the first page in 2026?

You rank a new Amazon product on the first page by preserving the honeymoon period (set the launch date a year out, only flip it live with inventory in stock and the full listing content ready), writing the listing so top keywords appear in exact match at the front of the title, and turning on aggressive PPC on the highest-relevance keywords from day one to feed clicks, add-to-carts, and conversions into Amazon’s performance signal.

How much money do you need to launch a product on Amazon?

For a $5 landed-cost product selling 30 units a day, plan on roughly $30,000: about $5,000 for three months of inventory, double that for the next reorder, and the balance for launch PPC and marketing. Higher landed costs, more competitive niches, and higher target daily volumes scale that budget up proportionally.

What is the Amazon honeymoon period?

The Amazon honeymoon period is the first 30 to 60 days after a listing goes live, when Amazon has no performance history for the SKU and is more forgiving as it decides where the product belongs. Sellers preserve it by keeping the listing’s launch date in the future until inventory arrives, so that Amazon does not accumulate weeks or months of zeroed-out performance data before real sales start.

How does Amazon assign ranking credit to keywords in a listing?

Amazon assigns ranking credit based on where the keyword sits and how it is matched. The front of the title beats the middle of the title, the title beats the bullets, the bullets beat the backend, and the backend beats the description. Exact-order phrases earn full credit; scrambled variants earn roughly 30 percent, because Amazon treats them as broad matches.

Do Amazon reviews still matter for product research?

Reviews matter less than most sellers assume when picking what to sell. If most of the top 10 have 1,000+ reviews, Brandon’s scorecard treats that as a negative around 100 points, but not a deal-breaker, because a listing with strong SEO and better keyword coverage can still outrank review-heavy competitors that neglected their listings.

What is a good Amazon margin in 2026?

A realistic Amazon margin in 2026 sits in the mid-teens for many private-label sellers year-round, with Q4 pushing 30 to 35 percent on winning SKUs. Tacos in the 15 to 16 percent range and elevated raw-material costs mean single-digit-margin months outside of Q4 are common, and profitable sellers plan for the full-year blended margin, not the peak-quarter number.

Where can I try Data Dive?

Data Dive is at datadive.tools. Brandon mentioned a discount code of “mywifequit” for $50 off per month, and a free three-hour product-validation master class at seller-systems.com that walks through the full dive workflow.

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If you are really considering starting your own online business, then you have to check out my free mini course on How To Create A Niche Online Store In 5 Easy Steps.

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464: Dead Simple Business Ideas That Anyone Can Start With No Money – Family First Friday

464: Dead Simple Business Ideas That Anyone Can Start With No Money - Family First Friday

Eleven online business ideas you can start with no money this year: podcast matchmaking, digital courses, dropshipping, print-on-demand, curated subscription boxes, testimonial video content creation, Amazon Influencer product reviews, personalized coaching, activity books on Amazon KDP, virtual event planning, and online tutoring. Every one runs from a laptop at home, and most cost nothing but time to launch.

In this Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, recorded shortly after The Family First Entrepreneur hit the Wall Street Journal business bestseller list, I run through my go-to list for anyone who tells me they cannot think of a side hustle or do not have money to start one. These are the ideas I hand to friends, students, and readers first because the barrier to entry is essentially zero.

Here is the full list, why each one works, what platforms make it easy, and the market data behind the biggest categories.

Key takeaways

  • None of these 11 business ideas require inventory, an office, or startup capital beyond the cost of a laptop and time. They run on people skills, an internet connection, and a willingness to niche down.
  • The e-learning market is projected to pass $375 billion by 2026, which is why “expert enough” digital courses remain one of the highest-leverage no-money businesses on the list.
  • There are over 5 million podcasts and roughly 464 million podcast listeners today, and most shows are actively looking for guests. A podcast matchmaking service is a pure-people-skills business that Jessica Rhodes grew to six figures within a year at Interview Connections.
  • Dropshipping is a stepping stone, not the destination. Margins are thin, so use it to find winning products and then private-label them for real profit.
  • Amazon Influencer video reviews pay roughly 4 percent of the buyer’s entire checkout cart, not just the reviewed item, and rank in the product listing itself on a page that gets millions of daily visits.
  • Virtual coaching and tutoring have no geographical ceiling. Steve’s tennis coach makes thousands per month at $99/month through tpatennis.com without stepping on a court.

What are the best online business ideas you can start with no money?

The best online business ideas you can start with no money are the ones where your only real inputs are your time and an existing skill. That includes podcast matchmaking, digital courses, dropshipping and print-on-demand ecommerce, subscription boxes, testimonial video content creation, Amazon Influencer video reviews, one-on-one coaching, low-content activity books on Amazon KDP, virtual event planning, and online tutoring.

Every idea below can be started from home this week. Most only need free platforms (Teachable for courses, KDP for books, Amazon for reviews) and the willingness to niche down to a specific audience.

Idea 1: Start a podcast matchmaking service

A podcast matchmaking service connects podcast hosts who need guests with authors, experts, and researchers who want interview slots. According to Podcast Report, there are now roughly 464 million podcast listeners and over 5 million podcasts, and most active shows (my own included) are constantly hunting for good guests.

The business model is simple: build a list of shows in a niche, offer to help hosts source guests for free, and then charge experts to pitch them into those shows. You do not even need the podcaster’s permission upfront; you just need a working list and a real pipeline of qualified guests to place.

My friend Jessica Rhodes built exactly this at Interview Connections and grew it to six figures in year one. It is a pure people-skills business with essentially zero startup cost.

Idea 2: Launch a digital course on something you already know

A digital course business turns a skill you already have into recurring revenue. The e-learning market is expected to pass $375 billion by 2026, and platforms like Teachable will host your course for free until you make sales.

The bar is lower than most people think. You do not need to be the world’s foremost expert; you need to be “expert enough,” meaning you know more than the person paying you. My own ecommerce course has over 5,000 members and has generated close to $10 million, and my material is really only useful up to about $10 million in store revenue.

Find early students by hanging out in relevant Facebook groups and answering real questions until people start asking for more. Authority in a niche is built one helpful comment at a time.

Idea 3: Start a dropshipping ecommerce store

Dropshipping is an ecommerce model where you take the order and your supplier ships the product directly to the customer, so you never touch inventory. It is one of the few ways to launch an ecommerce store with essentially zero upfront capital, and there are 12+ free ecommerce platforms that will let you list products at no cost.

The honest tradeoff is margin: dropshipping rarely produces life-changing income on its own because you are the middleman on a very small spread. Treat it as a data-gathering step. Test which products sell, then private-label the winners so you keep the full margin.

Idea 4: Start a print-on-demand store

A print-on-demand store lets you sell custom designs on t-shirts, mugs, hoodies, and dozens of other products without buying inventory. When an order comes in, the print-on-demand supplier prints and ships it, and you collect the difference between retail and the supplier’s cost.

You do not need to be an artist anymore. AI tools like Midjourney and DALL-E can generate designs from a prompt, so the only real inputs are a niche and a marketing plan.

Idea 5: Launch a curated subscription box

A subscription box business ships a curated bundle of themed products (snacks, beauty samples, hobby supplies) to a recurring paying customer base. The killer feature is retention: once someone subscribes, they become a consistent monthly revenue stream instead of a one-time purchase.

A concrete niche example: a Japan snack box that ships hard-to-find snacks and drinks the US does not carry. The sourcing trips are business-deductible travel, and the recurring model smooths out revenue across the year. Platforms like CrateJoy operate as a marketplace for subscription boxes and help with discovery in the early days.

Idea 6: Create testimonial video content for ecommerce brands

Testimonial video content creators are hired by ecommerce companies to record product-review-style videos that run in the brand’s paid ads and social feeds. Most of the “everyday customer” testimonials you see in ads are paid creators, because the odds of finding a genuine buyer who is also good on camera and eloquent are very low.

If you are comfortable on camera, tens of thousands of brands are actively hiring for this. You need no audience of your own, because the video runs on the brand’s channels, not yours. One of my friends earns a full-time living making these videos for skincare brands.

Idea 7: Join the Amazon Influencer program and film product reviews

The Amazon Influencer program pays you a commission (roughly 4 percent) when a shopper watches your product review on Amazon and buys, and that commission applies to the buyer’s entire cart, not just the reviewed item. Your video can appear directly inside the product listing on a page that gets millions of daily visits.

The workflow: apply to the Amazon Influencer program, buy products you would have bought anyway, film a quick phone review, and upload it. The key is finding popular products that do not yet have many video reviews, because your video is much more likely to be featured.

Because Amazon does the traffic, this is one of the closest things to genuinely passive income on the list once your reviews are in place.

Idea 8: Sell personalized coaching in a niche skill

A personalized coaching business sells one-on-one instruction in any skill you have deep knowledge in, from personal finance to college admissions to a specific video game. There is a coach for essentially everything at this point; I recently searched for Mario Kart coaches after a friend beat me and there are real people making money doing it.

The more obscure and specific the skill, the less competition and the easier it is to charge. List services on Fiverr, Upwork, or Craigslist, or find clients in niche communities where your skill is discussed.

Personally, I am about to hire a college admissions coach for my daughter, because most kids do not accidentally get into top schools. If there is demand in your niche, there is a coaching business in it.

Idea 9: Sell low-content activity books on Amazon KDP

Low-content activity books are puzzle, coloring, and workbook titles you upload to Amazon KDP (Kindle Direct Publishing) with no inventory cost. Software like BookBolt has built-in templates that auto-generate word scrambles, word finds, crosswords, and sudoku, so a finished book takes about an hour.

The trick is finding underserved niches. A themed Chinese New Year activity book, for example, sells surprisingly well because the category has thin competition. For coloring books, AI image tools can generate coloring-friendly line-art pages on the fly, so you do not need to draw.

Idea 10: Start a virtual event planning agency

A virtual event planning agency handles the software, speaker coordination, email sequences, and run-of-show for online conferences. I discovered this need the hard way when COVID forced me to move my Seller Summit conference virtual in three weeks in 2020, and I would have paid real money for someone who already knew the software stack.

Virtual events are still in high demand. Companies want the reach and cost profile of an online conference without hiring an in-house events team, and a specialized agency is the obvious fit.

Idea 11: Tutor online in a language, instrument, or sport

Online tutoring turns any teachable skill into recurring income without geographic limits. A friend of mine made over $100,000 tutoring Chinese kids in English over Zoom, and that model now extends far beyond languages.

I have friends taking virtual piano lessons and virtual singing lessons, and I convinced my own tennis coach to launch virtual tennis lessons at $99/month through tpatennis.com. He now earns thousands of dollars a month without setting foot on a court. If you can teach it, someone across the world will pay for a Zoom link.

Comparison: which no-money business idea fits which strengths

Business ideaBest if you haveTime to first dollarIncome ceiling
Podcast matchmakingPeople skills, outreach comfortWeeksSix figures (Interview Connections did it in year 1)
Digital courseA skill and a small audienceMonthsSeven figures
DropshippingWillingness to test dozens of SKUsWeeksLow-to-mid five figures/month before pivoting to private label
Print-on-demandDesign taste (or AI prompting)WeeksFive to six figures
Subscription boxCuration instinct, niche knowledgeMonthsSeven figures at scale
Testimonial video creatorOn-camera presenceDaysFull-time income per skincare-brand friend
Amazon Influencer reviewsWillingness to film phone videosWeeks after approvalPassive four to five figures/month
Personalized coachingDeep skill in one nicheDaysSix figures
Low-content KDP booksNothing beyond BookBolt accessWeeksFour to five figures/month with a catalog
Virtual event planningOperations/PM experienceMonthsSix figures per event
Online tutoringEnglish fluency or teachable skillDays$100K+ per Steve’s friend teaching Chinese kids

Frequently asked questions

What is the easiest online business to start with no money?

The easiest online business to start with no money is one that sells a service you already know how to perform, because the only inputs are your time and a laptop. Personalized coaching, online tutoring, and testimonial video content creation all fit that profile: no inventory, no software cost, no upfront ad spend, and you can be paid within days on Fiverr, Upwork, or Craigslist.

How much money do you actually need to start a dropshipping business?

You can start a dropshipping business for essentially $0 because there are 12+ free ecommerce platforms and no inventory to buy upfront. Practical costs come from testing paid ads to find winning products, and margins are thin enough that dropshipping is best treated as a research phase before you private-label the products that actually sell.

Do you need a big audience to make money on the Amazon Influencer program?

No. The Amazon Influencer program surfaces your videos directly on the Amazon product listing itself, so buyers on Amazon (not on your channel) drive the sales. Applicants do need a qualifying social presence to be approved, but once you are in, the traffic comes from Amazon’s tens of millions of daily shoppers, not from a following you have to build first.

Do I need to be a professional artist to sell print-on-demand or KDP books?

No. AI tools like Midjourney and DALL-E generate print-on-demand designs and coloring-book pages from text prompts, and BookBolt auto-generates puzzle books like word finds, crosswords, and sudoku from templates. The bottleneck is niche selection, not art.

Am I really qualified to sell an online course?

You are qualified to teach an online course if you know more about the topic than the person paying you. Steve’s ecommerce course is capped in usefulness around $10M in store revenue, but the vast majority of students want to hit their first six or seven figures and get real value from that scope. “Expert enough” beats “world-class expert” for course-market fit.

How big is the e-learning market?

The global e-learning market is projected to surpass $375 billion by 2026, which is why online courses, coaching, and tutoring are three of the strongest categories on this list. Demand for on-demand skill acquisition (from Excel to piano to Mario Kart) is still expanding faster than the supply of specialized teachers in most niches.

What is the fastest of these ideas to start earning?

Personalized coaching, testimonial video content creation, and online tutoring can generate their first paid client within days. All three list on Fiverr, Upwork, or Craigslist with no gatekeepers, and the buyer is looking for a service they can consume immediately.

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463: Crazy Rich Poets! How Will Green Gets 3M Visits/Month On His Poetry Analysis Website

463: Crazy Rich Poets!  How Will Green Gets 3M Visits/Month On His Poetry Analysis Website

Will Green built poemanalysis.com to over 3 million visits per month and near seven figures in ad revenue by turning school poetry syllabuses into individual poem analyses and then bundling them into linkable “reference guide” listicles that .edu sites pass authority to. In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, Will (a former McLaren supercar engineer who runs poemanalysis.com, bookanalysis.com, and oceaninfo.com) shares his exact content-site playbook.

Will is in a mastermind group I am in, and his story is proof that you can monetize almost any interest online if you follow through. He started the site as a teenager uploading revision notes, kept it alive through his automotive-engineering master’s and his years testing McLaren supercars, and only went full-time after a Google employee at an Ezoic (now Raptive) event essentially yelled at him that he was sitting on a gold mine.

Here is the full playbook: how Will researches poems worth writing about, the listicle structure that beat National Geographic on a two-month-old site, the schema markup and image-caption trick that pulled a rich snippet from a DA-zero domain, and how ad RPMs on his network compare.

Key takeaways

  • Poemanalysis.com does over 3 million visits per month with a catalog of about 4,300 poems, monetized 100 percent by display ads at Raptive (formerly AdThrive) RPMs of roughly $12 to $15 per thousand visitors, versus Ezoic’s ~$7 during COVID.
  • The scalable topic engine is exam boards. Will’s team maps published US, UK, and India examining-body syllabuses (like AQA’s Power and Conflict anthology), writes one deep article per poem, then combines them into “here are all the poems on this syllabus” listicles that attract .edu backlinks.
  • The listicle structure that beat Domain Authority 80 sites on oceaninfo.com (age: 2 months): intro, then H2 per item, two bolded bullet-point facts, a featured image whose caption AND alt tag answer the article’s core question in a full sentence, then a 150-200 word paragraph.
  • Ads hurt SEO. Will estimates traffic would jump if he switched ads off for a week, and competitors he watches routinely see rankings rise on pages where they strip ads.
  • Ad revenue is the worst monetization method. Will is moving to products and memberships that add to the free experience (never gate it), because a paywall crashes SEO and every competitor who paywalled ended up bleeding traffic.
  • He killed a Twitter tips site, a swipe-style financial tips site, an iPad tech site, and a steam-engine site before poem analysis worked. He calls failures more useful than wins, because they tell you what to fix.
  • SEMrush vs Ahrefs: Will keeps both. Ahrefs for keyword research and low-volume accuracy checked against Google Search Console; SEMrush for site audits, user-intent classification, and its new “click potential” score.

Who is Will Green and how big is poemanalysis.com?

Will Green is the founder of poemanalysis.com, an educational content site that draws over 3 million visits per month analyzing 4,300+ poems, plus sister sites bookanalysis.com and oceaninfo.com. He monetizes primarily through display advertising and pulls close to seven figures per year across the portfolio.

Will’s background is not literary. He holds a master’s in automotive engineering with motorsport and spent his early career at McLaren testing supercars, before COVID and a Google employee’s pointed comment convinced him to go full-time on the website. He started the seed idea at age 15 or 16 by posting his school revision notes online and noticed that poetry pages consistently outperformed everything else.

At a London Ezoic panel he sat between two publishers with 15-20 employees pulling half a million and 800,000 monthly visits. He revealed he was doing 1.5 million with one or two helpers, took the day off McLaren, and jaws dropped. That was the moment he started taking it seriously.

How Will researches poems worth writing about (the exam-board method)

Will’s research process starts with the standard SEO stack of Ahrefs and SEMrush against the seed terms “poem,” “poetry,” and their variants, then studies which competitor pages rank and improves on them. The unique unlock is exam-board syllabuses, which do not show up in keyword tools because they are new each year but drive predictable student search traffic.

His team downloads the annual PDFs published by examining bodies in the US, UK (like AQA), and India, and lists every prescribed poem. Each poem gets its own long-form analysis article. Then those individual poems are bundled into a single article (“the poems you need to analyze for AQA Power and Conflict, 2026”).

Those bundled articles are the link magnets. Teachers, forums, and .edu sites pick them up because they map cleanly to a real syllabus students are studying that year, and the backlinks pass authority into every individual poem page linked from the bundle.

The listicle structure that beat DA 80 sites on a two-month-old domain

Will’s listicle template goes: introduction, then for each item an H2 heading, one to two bolded bullet-point facts, an image with a full-sentence caption AND alt tag that answers the article’s core question, then a 150-200 word paragraph that expands beyond what the caption already said. Every element digests the same information in a different way so both human readers and Google’s crawler can extract the answer.

He tested this on oceaninfo.com with a “most dangerous rivers” listicle when the domain was two months old and had a Domain Authority of zero. Google pulled his image captions verbatim into a list-format rich snippet at the top of the SERP, ahead of National Geographic and other DA-80 competitors on identical keywords.

The image caption is the load-bearing element. Instead of the usual short keyword alt text (“dangerous river”), Will writes a full sentence that directly answers the article’s question (“The Amazon is dangerous because…”), and puts the identical sentence into the alt tag. Because every caption in the article answers the same question in a repeatable pattern, Google extracts the whole list.

How does schema markup help a content site rank?

Schema markup helps a content site rank by structuring content in a format Google can parse into rich snippets, which lift impressions even when click-through rate drops. Will rolled out FAQ schema across poemanalysis.com about a year before the interview and saw FAQ questions surface under his search results, expanding SERP real estate.

For the top rich snippet itself, though, no specific schema is required. What matters most is content structure so regimented that Google cannot help but extract it: consistent H2 patterns, one-idea-per-section, and image captions or bullet points that answer the article’s question directly.

Different schema types help different niches. Recipe schema hurts a non-food site and helps a food site; FAQ, BreadcrumbList, and Article are generally useful. Pick the schemas that match the actual entities on your page and skip the rest.

What is Will’s ad revenue per thousand visitors, and which network pays best?

Will’s page RPM (revenue per thousand visitors) at AdThrive (now Raptive) runs roughly $12 to $15, compared to about $7 on Ezoic before he switched. During COVID he had one or two days on Ezoic that were net negative on his account after fees. Higher-paying networks unlock as sites hit their traffic thresholds (typically 100,000 sessions per month for Raptive at the time).

Ad network RPM comparison from Will’s own accounts

NetworkApproximate page RPMNotes
Ezoic (during COVID)~$7 (occasionally negative)Volatile during the ad-market crash
AdThrive / Raptive$12 to $15Requires ~100K sessions/month to join

Will follows Google’s guidelines of roughly 20 to 25 percent in-content ad density, avoids ads above the fold, and runs one or two sticky ads. He admits it is intrusive and estimates traffic would jump if he removed them for a week, so the higher ad density doubles as an incentive for future ad-free membership signups.

Why ad revenue is the worst way to monetize a content site (and what to do instead)

Ad revenue is the weakest monetization lever because it caps at RPM times traffic and it actively suppresses that traffic by degrading core web vitals, bounce rate, and user experience. Will now believes the objective for any mature content site should shift decisively away from “more traffic equals more ad revenue” once you hit a healthy baseline.

The alternative is products, services, or memberships that add to the free experience rather than gate it. Will is against paywalls on educational content on principle, and the data agrees with him: every direct competitor that paywalled analyzed poems saw SEO collapse, and one member-model competitor lost 80 percent of its traffic but made more money from paid memberships.

His planned membership will bundle an ad-free experience with premium extras, so paying users buy an upgrade rather than access to content that used to be free.

The 4 content-site failures Will learned from before poemanalysis.com worked

Failed siteTopicWhy it failedLesson Will carried forward
Twitter tips siteHow to optimize TwitterWill was not an expert; content quality was thinDo not write about what you cannot cover as an expert (or hire someone who can)
Swipe-style financial tips sitePersonal finance one-liners200-word entries were too short to index and rankWord count and depth matter to Google, not just UX
iPad tech siteiPad news and reviewsContent copied competitors without a clear angleOriginal take beats aggregation
Steam engines siteSteam engine history and mechanicsPassionate readers used comments to point out problems long before Google penalized themReader feedback in comments is an early-warning system worth mining

Will’s philosophy: he wants to fail more often than he succeeds because failures give unambiguous signals about what to fix. Successful sites reveal much less.

Frequently asked questions

How much traffic does poemanalysis.com actually get?

Poemanalysis.com averages over 3 million visits per month, with significant seasonality tied to when students are in school. The site has a catalog of roughly 4,300 individual poem analyses plus bundled syllabus listicles, and Will confirmed the ballpark figure on the podcast in mid-2023.

How much does a poetry content site make from display ads?

Will’s site makes close to seven figures per year, driven by page RPMs of roughly $12 to $15 on AdThrive/Raptive across 3M+ monthly visits. Earlier on Ezoic he ran closer to $7 RPM, with volatility during the COVID ad-market crash that put him briefly net-negative.

What is the best listicle structure for SEO in 2026?

The listicle structure that Will used to beat DA 80 competitors from a DA 0 site is: introduction, then per item an H2 with the item name, one to two bolded bullet-point facts, a featured image whose caption and alt tag are identical full-sentence answers to the article’s core question, then a 150-200 word paragraph adding context beyond what the caption said. The repeating caption pattern is what Google’s crawler extracts into a rich snippet.

Do image alt tags actually help SEO for content sites?

Yes, when the alt tag is a full-sentence answer to the article’s question rather than a bare keyword. Will pairs each image with a caption and alt tag that repeat the same complete sentence (e.g. “The Amazon is dangerous because…”), and Google used those captions to build a rich-snippet list from his article, beating National Geographic on the same query.

Ahrefs vs SEMrush for a content site: which one wins?

Will uses both because their algorithms disagree often enough to be worth cross-checking. Ahrefs wins for keyword research and low-volume accuracy (verified against Google Search Console), while SEMrush wins for site audits, its user-intent classifier (informational/commercial/branded), and its newer “click potential” metric that estimates click share versus zero-click SERPs.

Should a new content site put content behind a paywall?

No. Every direct competitor Will watched paywall educational content saw their SEO collapse, because Google needs to crawl the content to rank it and users bounce when they hit a paywall. The winning model is keep the analysis free, add optional products, memberships, or premium formats that add to the free experience rather than gate it.

How do you get .edu backlinks to a content site?

Will earns .edu backlinks by producing “reference guides” that map one-to-one to real exam-board syllabuses (like AQA’s Power and Conflict anthology in the UK). Each bundled article groups every prescribed poem for a specific exam, in a specific country, in a specific year, and teachers and school forums link to it because it saves them work.

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462: The Hidden Truth About Dropshipping: Is It Really A Profitable Ecommerce Model With Saba Mohebpour

462: The Hidden Truth About Dropshipping: Is It Really A Profitable Ecommerce Model With Saba Mohebpour

Dropshipping is profitable when you run a tight niche store (typically 1 to 10 focused products, not 500), source from vetted US or EU suppliers with 25 to 50 percent baked-in margin, and have either paid-acquisition skill or an existing audience to drive traffic. In this episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, Spocket founder Saba Mohebpour walks through what the data across his 150,000+ merchants actually shows about dropshipping viability, and where AliExpress-based stores tend to die within six to eight months.

Saba built Spocket after 10 to 11 failed apps, self-taught himself to code from a $14.99 Udemy course, and launched on the Shopify App Store in 2017. Spocket is now a marketplace of over 3,000 vetted suppliers and 1.5 million products, and about 68 to 70 percent of Spocket orders route through US and EU suppliers rather than AliExpress.

I am not a huge dropshipping fan as a long-term model, which made this a useful conversation. Here is the honest breakdown of what works, what does not, and how the successful merchants graduate off pure dropshipping.

Key takeaways

  • Successful Spocket dropshippers run niche stores with 1 to 10 focused products, not general Amazon-style catalogs. Spocket caps its top tier at 10,000 pushable products because more than that wastes merchant time, per Spocket’s own data.
  • Vetted US and EU suppliers on Spocket must offer 25 to 50 percent off retail as a condition of joining, which is what gives dropshippers baked-in margin before they pay for any marketing.
  • 68 to 70 percent of Spocket orders route through US/EU suppliers rather than AliExpress. AliExpress-based dropshipping can spike to seven figures in three months and then die inside six to eight when competition arrives.
  • The two proven traffic engines for dropshippers on Spocket: paid-acquisition specialists with a positive ROI who reinvest every dollar, and creators with existing Instagram audiences (10K to millions) who launch stores to their followers at zero acquisition cost.
  • The all-in cost to start testing a dropshipping store is under $100 per month (Shopify at $25-40, Spocket at $30). Saba’s point: that is less than one dinner out, and the lesson-per-dollar ratio on a failed store is high.
  • Spocket’s customer-support KPIs: under 2-minute response time, 95 percent+ CSAT/NPS weekly average, with 35 people staffing 24/7 support that Saba himself still reads 10 to 15 tickets from daily.
  • The natural graduation path is dropship to test, then move winners to white-label via Spocket’s Jubilee partnership (0 to 12,000 merchants in four months), then eventually to private label with your own inventory.

Is dropshipping actually profitable in 2026?

Dropshipping is profitable when the store is niched, the supplier margin is real (25 to 50 percent off retail before marketing costs), and traffic comes from either skilled paid acquisition or an existing audience. Across Spocket’s 150,000+ active merchants the winners consistently share those three traits; general-catalog stores trying to be smaller Amazons consistently do not.

The failure mode is the opposite pattern: a broad catalog of hundreds or thousands of imported products, no niche focus, unvetted AliExpress suppliers with four-to-eight-week shipping, and no acquisition channel beyond hoping people find the store. That combination is why dropshipping has such a bad reputation, and it is what most beginners default to.

Dropshipping is best treated as a low-cost testing lab. The cost to run the test is around $100 per month, and the merchants who eventually build real businesses use the drop-ship stage to find winning products before they graduate to white-label or private label.

Who is Saba Mohebpour and how did Spocket start?

Saba Mohebpour is the founder and CEO of Spocket, a dropshipping marketplace with over 150,000 active merchants across Shopify, Wix, BigCommerce, Ecwid, Square, Squarespace, WooCommerce, and (as of the recording) eBay, with an Amazon integration launching within four weeks. Spocket has over 3,000 vetted suppliers and about 1.5 million products, roughly 90 percent based in the US and Europe.

Saba’s path in is unusual. He moved to Canada in 2012 for pre-med at UBC, saw a 2015 YouTube interview about a 17-year-old whose app Summly sold to Yahoo for $30 million, and decided to teach himself to code that night. He bought a $14.99 Udemy course, downloaded Apple’s Swift book, and coded 16 to 17 hours a day through the rest of his degree.

He built and killed 10 to 11 apps before Spocket, which launched on the Shopify App Store in June 2017. Spocket raised a Canadian seed round eight months in, went through Techstars, and has not raised since. Every failed app taught a compounding skill: coding first, then Facebook ads, then hiring, then grants, then how to run a company.

Why niche stores beat general catalogs in dropshipping

Niche stores beat general catalogs in dropshipping because customers who want a generic product go to Amazon or eBay first. A dropshipping store’s only advantage is specificity: 1 to 10 curated products for one audience, presented better than a marketplace can, marketed to a targeted community.

Spocket’s own product decisions reinforce this. The top Unicorn tier caps pushable products at 10,000 even though raising the cap would take about 30 minutes of engineering, because the data shows that even 10,000 is more than optimal. Their pattern-matching on successful stores is unambiguous.

The rule of thumb: if a customer could find the same product on Amazon in one search, you need something Amazon does not have (a narrower audience, better content, an exclusive angle, or the trust of an existing community) or you will lose the price comparison.

The 3 traffic engines that make dropshippers successful

There are three traffic engines Spocket sees repeatedly in its winning merchants. Each requires a distinct skill or asset before you launch, and mismatching them to your situation is where most beginner dropshippers stall.

Traffic engine 1: skilled paid acquisition with a positive ROI loop

Some of Spocket’s top merchants are essentially agencies-that-also-dropship. They launch a store as a side project, run paid ads with disciplined ROI tracking, and pour every extra dollar back into ad spend to scale. One merchant Saba described was doing millions in sales this way, and eventually built a brand on top of the store.

Traffic engine 2: an existing social audience

Creators with 10,000 to millions of Instagram followers spin up dropshipping stores as monetization for an audience they already have. Because acquisition cost is effectively zero, cash flow is positive from day one. Saba described a Spocket case study of a merchant who scaled from one store to four, doing $2 to $2.5 million per year, very profitably.

Traffic engine 3: SEO and content that funnels to product pages

The third engine is the classic content-first approach: rank in search, or build an owned audience via blog/YouTube/newsletter, then funnel that traffic to product pages. This overlaps with what I recommend to my own students who do not already have an ad-buying skill or a social following.

Spocket’s supplier vetting: what the 25 to 50 percent margin rule means

Every supplier on Spocket must offer 25 to 50 percent off retail as a condition of joining, so merchants automatically start with margin. That is one of about 10 requirements on the onboarding checklist, and Spocket’s vetting process runs multi-week to multi-month per supplier from first contact to live.

Supplier types on the platform range from pure warehousing-and-shipping wholesalers, to Etsy-style handmade limited editions, to aggregators who pull from multiple small suppliers. About 90 percent of the 3,000+ supplier base is US or Europe, which is what enables the fast shipping that separates Spocket from AliExpress-based platforms.

Suppliers can still sell direct on their own site, and rarely compete meaningfully with dropshippers because most suppliers are strong manufacturers and weak marketers. Spocket’s pitch to them is: focus on producing, warehousing, and shipping, and let hundreds of merchants handle marketing and selling.

US/EU dropshipping vs AliExpress dropshipping: what the data shows

DimensionUS/EU dropshipping (Spocket vetted)AliExpress dropshipping
Share of Spocket orders~68 to 70 percent~30 to 32 percent
Shipping timeDays4 to 8 weeks historically; better today but still slower
Supplier vettingVetted by Spocket (~10-item checklist, multi-week onboarding)Not vetted; merchant reviews ratings themselves
Guaranteed margin25 to 50 percent off retail baked inVariable; merchant negotiates
Dispute resolutionSpocket mediates and processes refunds if warrantedNot covered by Spocket support
Typical revenue lifespan of winning productsSustainable long-termOften 6 to 8 months before competition kills margins
Best fit forLong-term brand-building merchantsFast paid-acquisition operators willing to churn products

Saba’s honest take on AliExpress: some merchants make several million dollars in two to three months on a winning product, then the competition arrives, margins collapse, and the store dies. That is a valid short-cycle model if you are a paid-acquisition specialist, but it is not a business that compounds.

What does a dropshipping test store actually cost to run?

A dropshipping test store costs under $100 per month all-in: Shopify at roughly $25 to $40 depending on the plan you pick, Spocket at $29 to $30 for the starter, and no inventory to buy upfront. Compared to the cost of two dinners out or eight to nine coffees, the lesson-per-dollar ratio on a failed store is much better than most people give it credit for.

Saba’s argument to friends who balk at the monthly fee: they will happily spend $100 on cocktails but perceive a $30 SaaS bill as expensive, when the SaaS is the cheapest way to learn Shopify setup, taxes, theme configuration, sourcing automation, and Facebook ads all at once. If the first store fails, the second one starts with real skills.

The starter Spocket plan at $29 includes access to the 1.5M+ product marketplace, AliExpress and Alibaba integrations, white-label via Jubilee, NFT-store creation, winning-products data, image search, real-time inventory sync, and 24/7 customer support with a sub-2-minute response SLA.

The graduation path: from dropshipping to white-label to private label

The natural progression for successful Spocket dropshippers mirrors what Shopify saw with Shopify Plus. Merchants dropship to test, find winners, then need a way to keep growing without staying stuck on generic supplier products. Spocket’s answer is a partnership with Jubilee (focused today on cosmetics, expanding to fashion) that lets merchants slap their logo on manufacturer-produced product and treat it as a private-label brand.

Jubilee scaled from essentially zero to over 12,000 active merchants in the four months since the partnership launched, which points to real demand for the graduation path. It is $19 per month plus a small per-order cut on top of Spocket’s own fees.

The final step is true private label with your own inventory purchase. Spocket suppliers will typically offer up to 50 percent off retail on bulk orders, which is the wholesale price. That is what lets you self-warehouse, customize packaging, and control the unboxing experience.

Frequently asked questions

Is dropshipping still profitable in 2026?

Dropshipping is still profitable in 2026 when you run a niche store of 1 to 10 focused products, source from vetted suppliers with 25 to 50 percent baked-in margin, and drive traffic through paid acquisition, an existing audience, or SEO/content. General catalogs of hundreds of imported products competing with Amazon on price are the pattern that consistently fails.

How many products should a dropshipping store have?

A dropshipping store should typically have 1 to 10 focused products in one narrow niche, per the data Spocket sees across its successful merchants. Spocket caps even its top-tier plan at 10,000 pushable products because more than that consistently wastes merchant time without improving store performance.

How much does it cost to start dropshipping?

The all-in cost to start dropshipping is under $100 per month with no inventory: roughly $25 to $40 for Shopify, $29 to $30 for a supplier marketplace like Spocket, and no upfront product buys. The bigger real cost is testing budget for paid ads if that is your traffic channel.

Is AliExpress dropshipping still viable?

AliExpress dropshipping can work in short bursts (some Spocket merchants hit several million dollars in two to three months on a winning product), but competition typically kills the margin within six to eight months. It is a valid model for skilled paid-acquisition operators willing to churn products, and a poor fit for anyone building a long-term brand.

What margin do vetted dropshipping suppliers offer?

Vetted dropshipping suppliers on Spocket must offer 25 to 50 percent off retail as a condition of joining the marketplace, so merchants start with margin before any marketing spend. Bulk-order pricing on the same supplier products can reach the full 50 percent discount, which is the wholesale price for merchants ready to hold inventory.

Where do successful dropshippers get their traffic?

Successful dropshippers on Spocket get traffic from one of three engines: skilled paid acquisition with a positive-ROI reinvestment loop, an existing social audience (typically Instagram followings of 10,000 to millions), or SEO/content that funnels to product pages. Merchants who match one of these engines to their own strengths before launch outperform generic-store operators by a wide margin.

Should you dropship first and then move to private label?

Yes. Dropshipping is the lowest-cost way to test which products actually sell, and the standard graduation path is dropship to find winners, move winners to white-label (via a partner like Spocket’s Jubilee integration), then to full private label with your own inventory. Jubilee grew from zero to 12,000 active merchants in four months, so the demand for that graduation is real.

Do you own the customer relationship in dropshipping?

Yes, the customer is yours and their data lives in your store, not the supplier’s. The supplier handles fulfillment; you handle acquisition, email, SMS, retargeting, and lifetime value. That is what makes dropshipping a valid first step toward a real ecommerce brand even when the individual product margins are thin.

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461: The Toxic Truth About Entrepreneurship – My Impromptu Speech At Books Inc | Family First Friday

461: The Toxic Truth About Entrepreneurship - My Impromptu Speech At Books Inc

The toxic truth about entrepreneurship is that most business books teach you to work 80 hours a week for an exit that usually never comes, and by the time you figure out the trade, your family has already paid the bill. This is a Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, taken from the impromptu 15-minute speech I gave at my very first book signing at Books Inc in Palo Alto for The Family First Entrepreneur.

The alternative is the framework I built the book around: a side hustle you actually care about, a small business run on systems and automation instead of hustle, and a clear ranking of the four life burners (work, friends, family, health) so you know which ones to turn down when a trade-off shows up.

Below is the through-line of that talk, plus the four burners theory explained in full and the FAQ people ask me most about family first entrepreneurship.

Key takeaways

  • Most business books assume you have no family and no other responsibilities. Family First Entrepreneurship rejects the 80-hour-week playbook and targets “enough” instead.
  • Our two businesses generate seven figures on roughly 20 hours per week combined, because we invested in systems and automation once the income was stable.
  • The four burners theory says life has four burners (work, friends, family, health) and you can only run two well. Pick your two on purpose.
  • Some balls you juggle are glass and some are rubber. Family is glass. Know which is which before you drop something.
  • Everyone should have a side hustle in a topic they already care about. Layoffs at Facebook and Google right now show why relying on a single paycheck is fragile.
  • The moving-goalposts trap kills more entrepreneurs than failure does. If the number keeps growing but nothing in your life gets better, the goal is the problem.

Why I wrote The Family First Entrepreneur

I wrote The Family First Entrepreneur because every business book I read assumed I had no kids, no spouse, and no interest in seeing either of them. Living in Silicon Valley makes it worse. The default template here is venture-backed, going public, and treating 80-hour weeks as the price of admission.

The math on that template is ugly once you stop and look at it. You sacrifice years of family time chasing an exit that, more often than not, never happens.

And even when it does happen, the entrepreneurs I interview on this podcast tell me privately that the payoff was smaller than the price.

What Family First Entrepreneurship actually means

Family First Entrepreneurship means building a business that funds the life you want on the fewest hours possible, then reinvesting that time in the people you love. It targets “enough money to be free” instead of a nine-figure exit.

For us, “enough” is two businesses that clear seven figures on around 20 hours a week of work between me and my wife Jen. That took years of building systems, but it is very much achievable for a small business.

You do not need a family to use this framework. If the phrase “family first” bothers you, read it as “life first.” The book is fundamentally about how to work less and make more.

The moving-goalposts trap that almost broke our business

The single biggest mistake I made as an entrepreneur was moving the goalposts every time we hit a number. When our handkerchief store cleared six figures in year one against a $60,000 target, my ego took over and I set a new target. When we hit that, I set another one.

We were making far more than we could spend. I am famously cheap. I do not like cars, I do not have expensive hobbies, and I do not travel lavishly.

One night Jen came to me in tears (the unhappy kind) and asked why we were still doing this. The whole reason we started the business was so she could quit her job and be around me and the kids. Somewhere along the way I had traded that away for a bigger revenue number.

That conversation is when we killed all revenue goals and rebuilt the business around processes, automation, and getting both of us out of the day to day. Money turns out to be a terrible measure of anything that matters.

Why successful entrepreneurs are often quietly miserable

After 460+ podcast interviews with seven, eight, and nine-figure entrepreneurs, I can tell you that the real conversation usually starts the second I hit the stop button. On air, everything is congratulations and growth curves. Off air, a lot of them are quietly falling apart.

One founder hit $2 million in six months. On the recording, we celebrated. Off air he told me it was the most stressful, miserable stretch of his life, because fast growth is not fun to live through even when it looks great on a chart.

I once interviewed a billionaire and asked, off record, if he had any regrets. He said yes: he lost his family, went through a divorce, and rarely sees his kids. He would trade the private jets and everything else to get them back.

Why the media version of an entrepreneur is fake

Anytime you see a family entrepreneur profile in the media, assume the camera-ready version is staged. Our family was recently on CNBC, and there is a scene where the kids run into the kitchen and cheerfully ask about breakfast options while I calmly pour milk.

Real mornings in our house are “get out of bed, put on your clothes, eat, out the door.” The videographer needed a warm shot, so we performed a warm shot.

The point is not that CNBC lied. The point is that a 90-second segment cannot show reality, so anything you are comparing yourself to on TV or Instagram is a highlight reel, not a benchmark.

Why everyone needs a side hustle right now

Everyone should have a side hustle even if they love their day job, because a side hustle is optionality and the tech industry just spent 12 months proving how fragile a single paycheck is. Facebook has now announced its second round of layoffs, and Google has cut roles again.

Friends of mine hate their situation but cannot walk away, because they never built anything on the side.

A side hustle also has real upside. Our handkerchief store started as a weekend project my wife and I ran on the side and turned into a seven-figure business.

MyWifeQuitHerJob.com started as a blog with zero readers because I got inspired by Steve Pavlina’s post “How to Make Money From Your Blog.” It took three years to make six figures, then it took off.

Same story with my YouTube channel. One video a week for three years, and now the ad revenue alone covers our family’s bills.

How to pick a side hustle you will actually stick with

Pick a side hustle in a topic you are already into, because consistency is the only thing that separates the side hustles that grow from the ones that die. If you already care about the topic, showing up every week is easy. If you do not, you will quit by week six.

One of my friends buys a new piece of electronics every single week. As his friend, I already want to know what he thinks of everything he buys. If he just documented that in a YouTube channel or blog, I would watch every video, and there are millions of people like me.

Your version of that is whatever you already do for free on weekends. Start documenting it and see what happens over 18 months.

What the second half of the book covers: automation and systems

The second half of The Family First Entrepreneur is about sustaining a business without becoming enslaved to it, because the trap most owners fall into is that the more money they make, the harder they work. That is backwards. If revenue is growing and your calendar is getting worse, you are running the wrong playbook.

The fix is systems, processes, and (increasingly) AI-powered automation. I have used human writers to help with the blog for years, and I am probably not going to keep using them because ChatGPT and the other tools have gotten that good.

If you have not experimented with ChatGPT, Midjourney, or any of the AI tools yet, do it this week. This is the biggest small-business productivity shift in a decade.

The four burners theory explained

The four burners theory says your life is a stove with four burners (work, friends, family, health) and to do one thing well you have to turn off at least one burner. To do something exceptionally well, you have to turn off two. Elon Musk has three burners off and his work burner cranked to max.

It is a priorities framework, not a lifestyle prescription. You cannot run a serious business, maintain great health, be a present spouse, be a present parent, and hold up an active social life all at the same time. Something gives.

My chosen two burners have always been family and work, in that order. Yours might be different. The point is to choose on purpose so you are not surprised by which burner burned down while you were focused on another one.

Glass balls vs rubber balls: knowing which trade-offs matter

You are always juggling multiple balls in the air, and some are glass while others are rubber. The rubber ones bounce when you drop them. The glass ones shatter.

Family is a glass ball. If you drop it, it does not bounce back. A missed revenue target is a rubber ball; you can chase it down next quarter.

Before you say yes to another late night, another launch, another client, ask which ball you are about to drop and whether it is glass or rubber. Almost every regret I hear from successful entrepreneurs is the story of dropping a glass ball while chasing a rubber one.

Frequently asked questions

What is a family first entrepreneur?

A family first entrepreneur is someone who builds a business designed around their family life instead of the other way around, targeting “enough” income to be free rather than a maximum exit. The goal is small business ownership with systems and automation that let you stop trading hours for dollars.

What is the four burners theory of work-life balance?

The four burners theory says your life has four burners (work, friends, family, health) and to succeed at any one, you have to turn off at least one other. To succeed at a very high level, you have to turn off two. It is a priorities framework popularized by James Clear.

How many hours a week does Steve Chou work?

Steve and Jen Chou run two seven-figure businesses (Bumblebee Linens and MyWifeQuitHerJob.com) on roughly 20 hours per week combined. That number is only possible because they invested years into building systems, automation, and hiring so both owners could step out of the daily operation.

Do you have to have kids to read The Family First Entrepreneur?

No. The Family First Entrepreneur is really a book about working less and making more, so the framework works for anyone who wants to build a small business without an 80-hour week. If you do not have a family, read “family first” as “life first” and the advice still applies.

Is it possible to start a side hustle when you already work full time?

Yes. Side hustles are how MyWifeQuitHerJob.com, Bumblebee Linens, and the podcast all started, each while Steve was still working a full-time engineering job. The key is picking a topic you already care about and blocking a set part of every week to work on it consistently.

What should my first side hustle be?

Your first side hustle should be in a topic you are already into for free, because consistency is what separates a side hustle that grows from one that dies. If you already read about, buy, or think about a topic on weekends, start documenting it publicly on a blog, YouTube channel, or podcast and see what audience shows up.

Where can I get The Family First Entrepreneur?

The Family First Entrepreneur is published by HarperCollins and available at major retailers including Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Books Inc, as well as at thefamilyfirstentrepreneur.com. The site also lists upcoming book-signing events.

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460: Insider Tips for Snagging a Traditional Book Publishing Deal And Becoming A Best Seller With Jeff Goins

460: Insider Tips for Snagging a Traditional Book Publishing Deal And Becoming A Best Seller With Jeff Goins

To get a traditional book deal with one of the Big Five publishers, you need three things before you pitch: an email list of at least 10,000 people, a genuinely differentiated idea, and a professional book proposal (typically 40 to 50 pages) shopped by a literary agent to editors those agents already know. That is the through line of my conversation with bestselling author Jeff Goins, founder of Fresh Complaint, who ghostwrote and shaped my book The Family First Entrepreneur into the six-figure HarperCollins deal I signed.

Jeff has published four traditional books, hit The Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestseller lists with The Art of Work (~100,000 copies sold), and has been guiding other authors through the same process for years. In this episode we walk through what a book proposal actually contains, why you almost always need an agent, how the writing itself happens, and what a real bestseller campaign looks like behind the scenes.

Below is a full breakdown of the traditional book publishing process, the real economics of a book advance, self vs traditional publishing, and answers to the questions I get asked most.

Key takeaways

  • The three prerequisites for a traditional book deal: a 10,000+ email list, a differentiated idea, and a professional book proposal shopped by an agent.
  • A book proposal typically runs 40 to 50 pages and includes author bio, marketing/publicity plan, target market, comparable titles, annotated outline, and a sample chapter.
  • Agents take 15% of everything (advance plus royalties) and are worth it: they get you into publishers, negotiate better deals, and protect your IP.
  • To hit a national bestseller list you generally need to sell 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in a single week, and ebooks and audiobooks do not count.
  • Jeff sold ~15,500 copies of The Art of Work in week one via a free-plus-shipping offer to his 50,000-person email list plus a network of affiliate partners; two-thirds of sales came from partner promotions, not his own audience.
  • Free-plus-shipping bestseller campaigns work but come with real financial risk. Jeff was $200,000 in debt from unexpected costs before pulling a rabbit out of a hat with a post-launch product bundle.
  • Self publishing (Amazon KDP) can be done in weeks and keeps all the profit; traditional publishing gets you into physical bookstores, on bestseller lists, and unlocks international rights sales.

Who Jeff Goins is and why he switched from online courses to book coaching

Jeff Goins is a four-time traditionally published author whose bestseller The Art of Work sold about 100,000 copies, and he now runs Fresh Complaint, an agency that helps authors plan, write, edit, and publish books. He co-shaped The Family First Entrepreneur with me, so this interview doubles as a candid behind-the-scenes look at that book.

For years Jeff ran a $500 self-guided online course business and did well with it. In 2020 he went through a personal reset (a midlife crisis and a divorce), courses stopped selling as consistently, and he had already started ghostwriting a book for our mutual friend Grant Baldwin as a side project.

By 2021 he sunsetted all his courses in a flash sale and went all-in on the agency. He says he misses selling products and will probably return to them eventually because they pair well with services.

Who can realistically get a traditional book deal

You need three things before a Big Five publisher will take you seriously: at least 10,000 people on your email list, an idea that is actually differentiated from the last ten books in your category, and a professional book proposal presented by a legitimate literary agent. Jeff will not take on a client with fewer than 10,000 email subscribers because publishers simply will not pay attention.

He also filters for interest, not just eligibility. He will not work on fiction, boring corporate books, or “just publish my blog posts” projects, because if the idea does not challenge him he checks out and the book suffers.

In my case, what got him excited was the tension of running multiple businesses while genuinely putting my family first. That was the “cool idea” he thought a publisher would buy.

What a book proposal actually contains

A traditional book proposal is typically 40 to 50 pages long (mine was 49) and it is what the agent uses to sell your book to publishers before you have written the book itself. It is essentially a business plan for the book.

The standard sections in a proposal are:

  • Highlights about the author (credentials, platform, previous work)
  • About the collaborator (if you are working with a ghostwriter or co-author)
  • Marketing and publicity plan for the book
  • Target market and audience
  • Comparable titles (books like yours, and how yours is different)
  • Annotated outline (every chapter, one paragraph each)
  • A sample chapter

Writing the proposal is not fast. My proposal took a year of work with Jeff. Jeff says his team’s minimum is three to four months for a first draft, then another two to three months of revisions with the agent before it is ready to shop.

Why you need a literary agent (and what 15% actually gets you)

You need a literary agent because they get you into publishers you cannot reach cold, negotiate better contracts, and protect your intellectual property, and they typically pay for themselves by increasing the size of your advance. Agents take 15% of everything (advance plus royalties), and unagented authors make measurably less money on average.

The three things a good agent brings:

  • Relationships. Agents already know acquiring editors at HarperCollins, Penguin Random House, Simon & Schuster, Hachette, and Macmillan. They set up meetings you would never get on your own.
  • Legal protection. Publisher contracts routinely include language that could give the publisher rights over your derivative products (courses, membership sites, spin-offs). Jeff has had clients who almost handed away control of a course platform because the book was named after it.
  • Editorial input. Many agents come from the publisher side. My agent Roger was previously an editor at HarperCollins, and he helped position the book to attract the best possible deal.

Even after four books, Jeff still uses an agent. If he ever went without one, he says he would at minimum hire an IP lawyer to review the contract.

How the writing actually gets done

There are roughly two types of book projects: an author with a big idea but no existing content (which requires weekly Zooms, transcribed interviews, and building the book from scratch), and an author with mountains of existing content (blog posts, courses, podcasts) that has to be organized into a coherent through line. The Family First Entrepreneur was the second type, since I came in with 800+ blog posts, 400+ course videos, and roughly 350 podcast episodes.

The writing process in that second case is asynchronous. Jeff and his team took my existing content, identified the through line, drafted ugly first passes, then iterated. Jeff calls the first stage “building the book” rather than writing.

The finished manuscript took about nine months to draft after the proposal was done. I read it probably 25 times before signing off. Jeff’s memorable line: “A book has to be really bad before it gets really good.”

The real economics of a book advance

A six-figure advance sounds huge until you do the math on when you actually earn out. Royalties on a traditionally published book are roughly 15% per copy sold. At a $30 cover price, that is ~$4.50 per book.

A $100,000 advance therefore requires around 22,000 copies sold before you earn a single additional dollar in royalties, and 22,000 copies is genuinely hard to hit. Most business books never earn out their advance.

I never expected the book to be a moneymaker. Every penny of the advance went back into marketing.

What it actually takes to hit a national bestseller list

To hit The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, or New York Times bestseller list you generally need to sell around 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in a single week, and ebooks and audiobooks do not count. Every sale must also be attributed to a unique buyer or IP address, so you cannot simply bulk-buy 6,000 copies for yourself.

The distinction matters because it changes your entire launch playbook. You cannot rely on Amazon sales alone (their weekly reporting to the lists is uneven), you cannot dump the numbers on your own list, and you need distributed demand across many buyers.

Jeff’s advice, echoing my book launch coach: do not try to sell the book. Sell high-value bonuses, and throw in the book. That is exactly the strategy I ran, offering $690 in bonuses (a print-on-demand workshop, a passive-income workshop, and a six-week Family First business challenge) to make ordering the hardcover a no-brainer.

How Jeff sold 15,500 copies of The Art of Work in week one

For The Art of Work, Jeff pre-sold 15,500 copies through a free-plus-shipping offer to his 50,000-person email list plus a network of affiliate partners, with roughly one-third of sales coming from his own audience and two-thirds from partner promotions. The offer was the paperback for free plus $6.99 shipping, which meant he ate about $8 in cost per book.

Sales broke down roughly like this:

  • ~5,000 copies from his own 50,000-person email list (a 10% conversion, run over a six-week email sequence)
  • ~10,000 copies from affiliate and JV partners emailing on his behalf
  • A “couple thousand” attributable to podcast interviews (out of ~250 podcasts he appeared on for that launch)

The upsell was a $200 course built from the book’s chapters, offered immediately after the free-plus-shipping order. He needed a ~7% conversion rate to break even on the shipping subsidy. He got 4%.

The near-bankruptcy story behind The Art of Work launch

Behind the 100,000-copy career-defining book was a near-bankruptcy. Jeff had modeled his worst case at losing $70,000 (the cash he had in the bank). The actual outcome was ~$200,000 in unexpected costs (higher-than-planned book expenses, an unexpected $50,000 tax bill, and $23-per-book international shipments to Australia, Canada, and even Luxembourg).

He rescued the launch by taking Derek Halpern’s advice: find one thing your audience already wants, package it, and sell it fast. He rebundled an old writing course with the book, ran a two-week product launch, and cleared roughly $250,000, wiping out the debt.

The other landmine: Barnes & Noble sat on a 3,500-book pre-order shipment for three and a half weeks after launch, so Jeff spent that period fielding hundreds of angry emails per day from customers who thought he had scammed them. His takeaway is that he will never act as the bookseller himself again.

Traditional publishing vs self publishing: which one to choose

Traditional publishing is the right choice when you want physical bookstore distribution, a shot at national bestseller lists, and eventual international rights sales; self publishing (via Amazon KDP) is the right choice when you want speed, control, higher per-copy profit, or a niche book that will primarily sell to your own audience. They optimize for different things.

Traditional gives you:

  • Placement in Barnes & Noble and independent bookstores
  • A realistic path to WSJ, USA Today, and NYT bestseller lists
  • A professional editorial team you would otherwise pay tens of thousands to assemble
  • Foreign rights sales (Chinese, Korean, Spanish editions) that are extremely hard to close on your own

Self publishing gives you:

  • A physical book in your hand in weeks, not years
  • Roughly 70% margins instead of 15% royalties
  • Full control over cover, pricing, and timing
  • No proposal, no agent, no publisher approval loop

Jeff has done both. He self-published a book of poems as a Christmas gift for his wife using Amazon KDP and had a physical copy in his hand within two weeks.

If he had another big idea he wanted the world to hear, he would still go traditional. For a niche product he could sell to his own list, he would self publish.

What differentiates a book that gets a deal from one that does not

Books that get a deal have three things: a platform that gives the publisher a floor of sales, a clearly differentiated angle within a proven category, and an author the acquiring editor personally likes. Everything else is negotiable, but those three are effectively non-negotiable.

If any one is missing, agents will not shop the proposal and editors will not bid. If all three are present, agents compete to represent you and multiple publishers will submit bids, which is how you end up with a real auction.

The auction is what drives advances up. Publishers set a date, submit bids, and you pick the winner (usually on editor fit as much as dollars, since the editor is the person you actually work with for two years).

Frequently asked questions

How do you get a traditional book deal?

You need an email list of at least ~10,000 people, a differentiated idea in a proven category, and a professional book proposal (typically 40 to 50 pages) shopped to editors by a literary agent. The agent takes 15% and pitches the proposal to acquiring editors at the Big Five publishers, who then bid on the book.

How much does a book advance pay?

Business-book advances typically range from $10,000 for a first-time author with a smaller platform up to mid six figures for authors with major reach. Jeff’s first book (The Art of Work) was a $50,000 advance; his follow-up was $150,000. Advances are paid in installments (usually on signing, on delivery of the manuscript, on publication, and on paperback release).

Do you need a literary agent to get published?

You do not technically need an agent, but going without one usually costs you more than the 15% commission would. Agents get you meetings with editors you cannot access on your own, negotiate substantially larger advances, and protect you from contract clauses that could hand the publisher rights over your derivative products.

How many books do you have to sell to hit a bestseller list?

You generally need to sell 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in a single week to hit the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, or USA Today bestseller list, and every sale has to be attributed to a unique buyer or IP address. Ebooks and audiobooks do not count.

Does self publishing pay more than traditional publishing?

On a per-copy basis, yes, self publishing pays roughly 70% margins versus ~15% royalties for a traditional deal. Traditional publishing wins on physical bookstore distribution, bestseller list eligibility, and international rights sales, all of which are extremely hard to replicate as an indie.

How long does it take to write a traditionally published book?

Plan on at least two to three years end to end: three to twelve months to write the proposal, another few months to land an agent and sell the book, six to twelve months to write the manuscript, then another nine to fifteen months in the publisher’s production pipeline before the book actually ships.

What is a book proposal?

A book proposal is a business plan for your book that literary agents use to sell the book to publishers before you have finished writing it. It typically includes an author bio, marketing plan, target market, comparable titles, an annotated chapter outline, and one or two sample chapters, and runs 40 to 50 pages total.

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459: Unexpected Twists On My Book Publishing Journey – A Behind The Scenes Look | Family First Friday

459: Unexpected Twists On My Book Publishing Journey - A Behind The Scenes Look

My book publishing journey with The Family First Entrepreneur took three years, resulted in a six-figure advance from HarperCollins (a Big Five publisher), and required a 49-page proposal, a literary agent, and roughly nine months of writing before the marketing work even started. This is a candid Family First Friday episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, recorded four days before the book officially released, walking through every step of the process and the four-prong launch strategy I used to chase a national bestseller list.

None of the six-figure advance is going in my pocket. Every penny went back into marketing the book. I wrote it for four reasons that have nothing to do with money, and I picked traditional publishing over self publishing for one reason that is almost entirely ego.

Below is the full behind-the-scenes breakdown: why I wrote it, why I went traditional, how the proposal and agent process worked, how the actual writing got done, and the exact four-prong strategy I used to move copies during launch week.

Key takeaways

  • Writing a book was never going to be profitable on its own. Even with a six-figure advance, every dollar went back into marketing.
  • My four reasons for writing the book: a lifelong bucket-list goal, a moment I could share with my kids in a bookstore, credibility with my mom (who never understood my online businesses), and lead generation for the rest of the business.
  • I chose traditional publishing over self publishing purely for the Barnes & Noble shelf, the bestseller-list eligibility, and the pride of a Big Five imprint.
  • Hiring Jeff Goins (bestselling author, founder of Fresh Complaint) was step one. The proposal alone took a year to build.
  • The 49-page book proposal covered author bio, marketing, target market, comparable titles, annotated outline, and a sample chapter.
  • The advance was six figures, royalties are ~15% per book, and at $30 cover price the book would need to sell ~22,000 copies to earn out.
  • Only 48% of US adults finished one book in the past year. Books are a genuinely hard sell in the TikTok era.
  • To hit a national bestseller list you need to sell 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in one week. Ebooks and audiobooks do not count.
  • My four-prong bestseller strategy: $690 in expiring bonuses, an aggressive podcast tour, favor calls to friends’ email lists, and bulk sales to past sponsors who wanted to gift books to their audience.

Why I wrote The Family First Entrepreneur

I wrote The Family First Entrepreneur for four reasons, and none of them was money. Writing a book was never going to be a lucrative career move, and even the six-figure advance went entirely back into launch marketing.

Reason one was pure bucket list. I have always wanted to walk my kids through a bookstore and show them a book with my name on it, which is something we planned to do on release day at our local Barnes & Noble.

Reason two was my mom, who never understood any of my online businesses. Selling handkerchiefs, running a blog, hosting a podcast: all of it confused her.

When I told her I was publishing a book she finally got excited, because a physical book on a physical shelf was something she could relate to.

Reason three was that a lot of the business books I was reading did not apply to me. I did not want to work 80 hours a week or chase a public exit at the cost of my family, and there was no book on the shelf saying it was okay to build something smaller.

Reason four was the boring one: a book is great lead gen for the rest of the business, and it tends to unlock speaking engagements, media coverage, and additional credibility.

Why I chose traditional publishing over self publishing

I chose traditional publishing over self publishing because self publishing does not get you into physical bookstores at scale and does not put you in credible contention for a national bestseller list. Self publishing usually pays better per copy (roughly 70% margin versus ~15% royalties), but money was never the point. Ego and legacy were.

I wanted a Big Five imprint on the spine and a shot at the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, or USA Today list. The process reminded me of applying to Stanford. I picked the goal, reverse-engineered exactly what it would take, and executed.

If your goal is maximum profit per copy or getting to market fast, self publishing is the better choice. If your goal is bookstore distribution and bestseller eligibility, traditional is still the only realistic path.

The first hire: bringing in Jeff Goins

The single most important decision I made was hiring Jeff Goins early, because I knew nothing about publishing and Jeff had already written multiple bestsellers. Jeff is a national bestselling author (The Art of Work, Real Artists Don’t Starve) and the founder of Fresh Complaint, which helps authors plan, write, and publish books.

We met in 2015 at FinCon, where he was a keynote. I bought his book, he signed it, it went on my shelf, and I had no expectation of ever working with him.

Years later he was one of the first calls I made when the book idea got serious. I think of moments like that as lottery tickets. The more people you meet and the more work you do, the more tickets you accumulate, and eventually one of them cashes in.

Step 1: Writing the 49-page book proposal

The book proposal is the document literary agents use to sell your book to publishers before you have written any of the actual manuscript, and it took me a full year working with Jeff to complete. Mine was 49 pages long.

The standard sections in a professional proposal:

  • Highlights about the author (credentials, platform, media)
  • About the collaborator (if you are working with a ghostwriter)
  • Marketing and publicity plan for the book
  • Target market and audience
  • Comparable titles (books like yours, and how yours is different)
  • Annotated outline (every chapter, one paragraph each)
  • A full sample chapter

Nailing the angle inside the proposal took the most work. I already had 800+ blog posts, 400+ course videos, and roughly 350 podcast episodes, spanning e-commerce, business, philosophy, parenting, and investing. The problem was finding the through line.

After many hours of conversation with Jeff, it landed. Most business books are written by single guys with no dependents whose default mode is grow, grow, grow, and almost none address the entrepreneur who wants a great business without becoming a stranger to their family.

That gap became the book.

Step 2: Hiring an agent and running the auction

Once the proposal was ready, I hired a literary agent to shop it to editors at the Big Five publishers because agents already have those relationships and unagented authors typically make substantially less money. Agents take 15% of your advance and royalties.

My agent pitched the proposal to his contacts. I ran Zoom meetings with several interested publishers to test editor fit, and then we set a bid date. On that date, publishers submitted their offers.

I picked HarperCollins largely because of my editor Hollis, who had previously worked with Gary Vee and other business authors. Editor fit matters a lot more than the top-line dollar amount, because that editor is the person you will actually work with for the next two years.

The actual economics of a six-figure advance

A six-figure advance sounds great until you do the math on when it earns out. I got roughly 15% royalties per copy sold, so on a $30 hardcover that is about $4.50 per book.

At a $100,000 advance (round numbers), the book would need to sell about 22,000 copies before I would see any additional royalty check. That is genuinely hard to hit, and most business books never do.

I was not writing this book to make money on royalties, so this did not bother me. But it is important context for anyone considering the traditional path expecting a big payday from the book itself.

Step 3: Writing the manuscript in nine months

With Jeff and his team, I drafted the guts of the manuscript in about nine months by combining my existing blog posts and course material with new audio I recorded to fill the gaps. Most of my writing these days is done by talking into Google Docs and editing the transcript, because I can speak faster than I can type.

HarperCollins was easy to work with on edits. The only substantive change they asked for was removing a section where I made some jokes about China. I agreed to cut it, mostly because I go to the Canton Fair every other year and would rather not get blacklisted or stranded.

Writing was the most tedious phase but also the most straightforward. Once the structure was set, it was mostly execution.

Why selling a book is harder than selling a $2,000 course

A $30 book is harder to sell than a $2,000 online course or a $1,000 conference ticket, because reading a book takes hours and the modern attention economy has trained people out of that habit. In 2022, only 288 million printed books were sold in the US total, while YouTube sees roughly 5 billion video views every day.

The average TikTok user spends 1.5 hours per day on the platform. Compare that to the fact that only 48% of US adults finished a single book in the last year, and you can see the demand curve is not tilted in a book’s favor.

That does not mean books are dead. It does mean you need a launch plan that respects how differently people consume information now.

Why book bestseller lists have strange rules

To hit a national bestseller list you need to sell 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in a single week, and every copy has to be attributable to a unique buyer or IP address so you cannot bulk-buy your way onto the list. Ebooks and audiobooks do not count, which is bizarre in a world where a huge share of readers only consume books digitally.

My wife only reads ebooks. Friends of mine only listen to audiobooks. None of that helps a bestseller campaign, which is one reason the launch strategy has to be so distributed.

You also cannot rely on Amazon’s own weekly numbers, because they report their sales to the lists on their own schedule, which does not always line up with launch week.

The bestseller campaign advice that changed my launch

My book launch coach told me to stop trying to sell the book and start selling the bonuses, throwing the book in for free effectively. I took that advice to heart from day one of the launch.

I stacked $690 worth of high-value bonuses on top of the book:

  • A three-day workshop on how to start a print-on-demand business
  • A two-day course on how to make money with blogging, YouTube, and podcasting
  • A six-week Family First business challenge starting in June, where I would work with buyers inside a private Facebook group to help them figure out their next side hustle

When I first launched the bonuses on their own, I sold maybe 100 books. It was going to be a real uphill fight to move thousands.

My four-prong bestseller launch strategy

To have any shot at the bestseller list, I ran a four-prong launch strategy in parallel, because no single channel can move 5,000+ hardcover copies in a week on its own. Every prong targeted a different pool of buyers.

Prong 1: The bonus stack with weekly urgency

I offered the $690 bonus stack for buying the book, then launched an expiring bonus every single week in April to keep urgency high. That urgency loop worked well, and April ended up being my strongest sales month. People need a specific reason to act now.

Prong 2: An aggressive podcast tour

I called in favors with friends who host popular podcasts and ran an intense tour that peaked at four podcast recordings in a single day. I do not recommend that pace. It is exhausting and the ROI is not obvious in real time, but the compound effect is a launch-week buzz and a wave of new audiences hearing about the book at once.

Prong 3: Email list swaps with friends

I worked with a bunch of close friends in the space to have them blast their email lists announcing the book. Email is still the highest-converting channel by a wide margin for book sales.

Prong 4: Bulk sales to past sponsors

The prong most people miss: I went back to every company that had ever sponsored me and offered to trade content (sponsored ad reads, videos, blog posts) for bulk book purchases. The sponsor would give the books away to their own audience, then send me a spreadsheet of physical shipping addresses so the books could be sent to unique buyers, which is what counts toward the bestseller list.

Why I did not spend my way onto the New York Times list

There are ways to buy your way onto a bestseller list. An acquaintance of mine spent roughly $1 million on ads to move enough books to hit the New York Times list. I was never going to spend that kind of money.

I am famously frugal. There was no scenario in which I would spend more on marketing the book than the advance was worth.

I got close to my target through the four-prong strategy alone, which was the whole point of picking a target realistic for our size instead of chasing the biggest possible number.

Frequently asked questions

Is traditional publishing worth it if you already have an audience?

Traditional publishing is worth it if you want physical bookstore distribution, bestseller-list eligibility, or the credibility of a Big Five imprint. If your goal is maximum profit per copy or a fast release, self publishing pays more and gets you to market in weeks instead of years.

How much does a book advance actually pay?

Business-book advances range widely, from about $10,000 for a first-time author with a smaller platform to mid six figures for authors with major reach. Advances are paid in installments (typically on signing, delivery of the manuscript, publication, and paperback release), and you have to sell enough copies to earn out the advance before you see any royalty checks.

Do you need a literary agent to sell a book?

You do not technically need an agent, but unagented authors typically get smaller advances and less favorable contract terms, which usually costs more than the 15% commission an agent takes. Agents also protect you from clauses that could hand the publisher rights over your derivative products like courses or membership sites.

How many copies do you have to sell to hit a bestseller list?

You generally need to sell 5,000 to 6,000 US hardcover copies in a single week to hit the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, or USA Today bestseller list, and every sale has to be attributed to a unique buyer or IP address. Ebooks and audiobooks do not count toward those lists.

How long does the whole book publishing process take?

Plan on at least two to three years from idea to release day. My proposal took a year, the writing took about nine months, and the publisher’s production pipeline added another year on top of that before the book hit shelves.

What is the best strategy to sell books on launch week?

Sell bonuses instead of the book itself, then throw in the book. Stack high-value bonuses that your audience would actually pay for on their own, make ordering the hardcover the only way to unlock them, and drive urgency with expiring components. Combine that with a podcast tour, email swaps with friends’ lists, and bulk sales to past sponsors who want to gift books to their audience.

How much of the advance goes to marketing the book?

For most first-time business-book authors, essentially all of the advance goes back into launch marketing (podcast tour production, bonus development, promotional copies, launch coach fees, and ads). Very few first books earn out enough in royalties for the author to keep the advance itself as profit.

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458: The Ugly Truth About Selling On Amazon And The Hidden Fees With Vladi Gordon

458: The Ugly Truth About Selling On Amazon And The Hidden Fees With Vladi Gordon

Amazon has more than 100 different small fees that quietly erode your profit, and the biggest profit killer of all is returns, because a single return on a $20 product can wipe out the profit from three sales after you account for the refund administration fee (~5-6% of price), the lost FBA fulfillment fee, return-shipping charges (up to another full FBA fee), and the cost of goods on any item that comes back damaged. That is the core of my conversation with Vladi Gordon, founder of Sellerboard, on the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast.

Vladi is a former Amazon seller (he was one of the first FBA sellers of Google Cardboard VR headsets in Germany around 2014) turned software founder. His profit-and-loss tool for Amazon sellers was built out of his own frustration trying to figure out whether he was actually profitable, and it now costs $15 a month, which makes it one of the cheapest tools of its kind on the market.

Below is the full breakdown of every hidden Amazon FBA fee category we covered, the true math on Amazon returns, why PPC break-even is harder than most sellers think, and answers to the questions I get most often about tracking Amazon profitability.

Key takeaways

  • Amazon’s revenue dashboard never subtracts refunds from your revenue number, so most sellers overestimate their profit for weeks or months.
  • Returns are the single most underestimated profit killer. A $20 item returned can cancel the profit from three sales at typical margins.
  • You lose the FBA fulfillment fee on a return, and Amazon sometimes charges a second FBA-sized fee for return shipping (fashion in particular).
  • Amazon charges a refund administration fee of roughly 5-6% of item price (essentially a referral fee on the referral fee) on refunds in many categories.
  • Amazon has more than 100 different fee line items scattered across their reports (storage, inbound transportation, lightning-deal fees, coupon redemption, disposal, labeling, polybagging, and more).
  • Return rates vary wildly by category, from ~2% on batteries up to ~50% in fashion. Reducing return rate by even 1% can lift profit by ~20%.
  • Amazon PPC uses a 14-day attribution window that credits sales of any product from the seller after a click, which makes true break-even calculations harder.
  • The 80/20 rule applies to Amazon portfolios: roughly 20% of your SKUs generate about 80% of your profit, and you need product-level P&L to see which is which.

Who Vladi Gordon is and why he built Sellerboard

Vladi Gordon is a former software engineer at IBM who became an Amazon FBA seller in Germany around 2014, then built Sellerboard because no existing tool showed him whether he was actually profitable. He started with Google Cardboard VR headsets (the fold-up cardboard viewer Google open-sourced right when Facebook acquired Oculus), which took off as a first-mover FBA product before competition compressed margins.

At his peak he had roughly 20 SKUs (ties, phone tripods, drink coasters, VR headsets) sourced arbitrage-style from AliExpress and Alibaba. That portfolio taught him that Amazon selling is a real business, not a diamond mine, and that most SKUs do not repeat the outsize wins of the first one.

When margins tightened on his main product, he started looking for a profit-tracking tool, could not find one he liked at a price he was willing to pay, and partnered with a friend to build Sellerboard. He eventually sold his Amazon business to focus on the software.

Why Amazon’s revenue dashboard is lying to you

Amazon’s dashboard adds revenue when a sale happens but never subtracts revenue when the item is refunded, so the top-line number you see in Seller Central is systematically higher than what you actually keep. Refunds show up separately if you go looking, but the top-line “units sold” and “revenue” columns keep the original sale.

The practical result: most sellers estimate profit by taking units sold in Seller Central and multiplying by a rough per-unit profit they calculated on a napkin during product research. That estimate ignores refunds entirely and consistently overstates profit.

Every guru screenshot you see on YouTube or Instagram showing seven or eight figures in Amazon revenue is using this same inflated top-line number. Revenue is a vanity metric. Profit is what matters.

Why returns are the single biggest hidden Amazon profit killer

Returns are the largest hidden Amazon FBA cost because a single refund triggers multiple simultaneous losses that compound: you refund the customer’s full purchase price, you lose the FBA fulfillment fee you already paid, you often pay another FBA-sized fee for return shipping, and you may lose the entire cost of goods if the item comes back damaged. The one thing you do get back is the referral fee (Amazon’s ~15% commission), which softens the loss but does not eliminate it.

The math is brutal at typical margins. If your profit per unit is $6 and you refund a $20 sale, that single return effectively cancels three previous sales’ worth of profit.

Bookkeeping-wise, the cleanest way to handle returns is to book the loss on the day the return happens rather than retroactively editing the original sale month. Sellerboard uses this method by default, which is why refund events show up as negative profit hits in real time.

The full list of Amazon return fees you actually pay

Here is every line item that hits you when a customer returns an item.

  • Refund administration fee (~5-6% of item price). A “referral fee on the referral fee” that Amazon charges to process the refund. Does not apply to every category, but common. Non-refundable.
  • Lost FBA fulfillment fee. You paid Amazon to ship the item to the customer. You do not get that back.
  • Return-shipping fee (up to another full FBA fee). In many categories (fashion especially), Amazon charges you a second FBA-sized fee to ship the item from the customer back to the warehouse. Total FBA-related loss on a return can therefore run 15-30% of item price.
  • Cost of goods (if damaged). Amazon inspects returned items. If they mark it damaged, you lose the entire cost of goods. If they mark it sellable, that cost is added back to inventory.
  • Ongoing storage fees on damaged items. Damaged returns sit in the warehouse racking up storage fees until you dispose of them or ship them back to yourself.
  • Disposal or inbound shipping fees. Removing damaged inventory costs money either way. Shipping back to your own warehouse is cheaper (~inbound rates) than Amazon disposal in some cases.

The one line item you get back: the referral fee (Amazon’s ~15% commission) is refunded when the sale is refunded. In Europe, VAT also comes back.

Return rate benchmarks by category

Return rates vary wildly by product category, from ~2% on cheap batteries up to ~50% on fashion, so your benchmark should be category-specific rather than a blanket average. Rough working numbers:

  • Batteries and cheap consumables: under 2%
  • Home and kitchen: single digits
  • Overall Amazon average: ~10%
  • Electronics: 15-20%
  • Apparel and fashion: up to ~50%

Reducing your return rate by even 1 percentage point can lift net profit by ~20%, because you avoid all the compounding fees above, not just the refunded revenue. Small improvements in return rate are one of the highest-ROI things you can work on as an Amazon seller.

Easy ways to reduce your Amazon return rate

The easiest way to cut Amazon returns is to fix the reason customers are actually returning your product, and Amazon tells you the reason in a report most sellers ignore. Go to Reports > FBA > Customer Concessions and look at the “return reason” column plus any free-text comments customers left.

Common fixable reasons and their fixes:

  • “Bigger/smaller than I thought.” Add photos with a size reference (a coin, a hand, a known object) so buyers can visually gauge dimensions before purchasing.
  • “Color doesn’t match the picture.” Retake or color-correct product photos. Add multiple angles in realistic lighting. Buyers’ screen and lighting conditions vary a lot.
  • “Not as described.” Tighten your bullet points and title. Remove any language that oversells the product.

Warning: aggressively rewriting listings to reduce returns can also cause conversion rate to drop or trigger Amazon flags. Change one thing at a time, watch the return rate over 30 days, and iterate.

Beyond returns: the other hidden Amazon fees

Beyond returns, Amazon charges more than 100 distinct fees scattered across their reports, and most sellers only account for the two or three obvious ones. The ones sellers most commonly miss:

  • Inbound transportation. Roughly $3+ per box to ship inventory to an Amazon warehouse. Small per box, meaningful at volume.
  • Monthly Professional Seller subscription. $39.99/month baseline. Small but real.
  • Long-term and monthly storage fees. Not uniform per unit; hard to attribute to specific SKUs without software.
  • Lightning Deals fee. Per-deal fee on top of the discount.
  • Coupon redemption fee. Per-coupon fee on top of the discount.
  • Removal and disposal fees. For pulling inventory out of FBA or destroying it.
  • Labeling, polybagging, bubble-wrap, prep fees. If Amazon prepares your inventory rather than you.
  • FBA inbound defect fee. If your inbound shipment arrives damaged or improperly labeled.
  • Sales-tax collection fee. Where applicable.

Vladi’s rule of thumb: build in at least a 10% revenue buffer to your expected profit margin to cover the fees you are not tracking line by line. If your product does not have enough gross margin to absorb that buffer, the SKU is not a viable long-term product.

The Amazon warehouse “lost then found” fee trap

There is a specific holiday-season fee pattern most sellers do not know about: Amazon tends to lose inventory during Q4 when volumes are highest, reimburses you for the lost units, then “miraculously finds” them in January and claws the reimbursement back, without compensating you for the sales you missed during the peak. That is a real cost that never shows up as a fee line item.

Amazon reimburses you for the inventory itself, but they do not reimburse you for opportunity cost, including lost sales during your best selling weeks or dropped keyword rank because your listing went out of stock. That opportunity cost can be many times larger than the reimbursement.

Sellerboard shows reimbursements the day they hit your account, so you can spot the pattern and plan inventory buffers for next year’s Q4.

Why Amazon PPC break-even is harder to calculate than you think

Amazon PPC break-even is deceptively hard because Amazon’s ad reporting attributes any sale of any product from your account within a 14-day window after a click, not just the specific product being advertised. That means the “PPC revenue” number you see in the advertising console overstates the actual return on that specific campaign.

Most sellers should think about PPC in one of three modes:

  • Product launch mode: profitability does not matter. Buy sales to trigger organic ranking.
  • Support mode: break-even PPC to keep organic rank healthy. Do not lose money, but do not require profit either.
  • Profit mode: require PPC to be genuinely profitable. Getting harder every year as competition rises.

For break-even or profit mode, use your profit margin on the advertised product as your target ACoS (advertising cost of sales) rule of thumb. From there, work backward through conversion rate to your break-even bid.

Example: at a $2 target profit per unit and a 10% click-to-sale conversion rate, your break-even bid is $0.20 per click. Sellerboard tries to compute this more precisely per keyword by pulling in additional API data that the advertising console does not display.

Why the 80/20 rule matters for your Amazon SKU portfolio

Roughly 20% of your Amazon SKUs will generate about 80% of your true profit, so you need product-level P&L to know which SKUs are actually paying the bills and which are quietly losing money in aggregate. Total top-line profit hides losing SKUs when they are averaged in with the winners.

Without product-level tracking, sellers keep restocking losing SKUs because “overall profit is positive.” With it, you can spot the losers, cut them, and shift working capital into the winners.

This is not unique to Amazon. It is true of most product businesses, but Amazon’s fragmented fee structure makes it especially hard to see without software.

Frequently asked questions

What are the hidden fees when selling on Amazon FBA?

Amazon FBA has more than 100 distinct fee line items beyond the two obvious ones (~15% referral fee and per-unit FBA fulfillment fee). The biggest hidden costs are refund administration fees, return shipping, lost FBA fees on returned units, storage fees on damaged inventory, and dozens of smaller line items like Lightning Deals fees, coupon redemption fees, inbound transportation, and prep charges.

How much does the average Amazon return actually cost?

A single return can cost the seller 30-70% of the item’s sale price after adding up the refund administration fee (~5-6%), the lost FBA fulfillment fee (10-15% of price), return shipping (up to another 15%), and the cost of goods if the item comes back damaged. At typical margins, one return can cancel the profit from three previous sales.

What is the average Amazon return rate?

Overall Amazon return rates average about 10% across categories, but individual categories vary massively: batteries and cheap consumables under 2%, home and kitchen in the single digits, electronics 15-20%, and apparel or fashion up to ~50%.

Does Amazon subtract refunds from your revenue number?

No. Amazon’s Seller Central dashboard adds revenue when a sale occurs but does not subtract it when the item is refunded, so your top-line revenue number is systematically higher than what you actually keep. You have to pull refund data from separate reports to see true net revenue.

What is the best software to track Amazon profit and loss?

Sellerboard is one of the least expensive Amazon P&L tools on the market at $15/month and covers per-unit profit tracking, cash flow, and inventory. Alternatives include Helium 10 (bundled inside their broader suite) and ManageByStats. Any dedicated P&L tool is better than trying to reconcile Amazon’s raw reports by hand.

How does Amazon PPC attribution work?

Amazon PPC uses a 14-day attribution window and credits any sale of any product from the seller after a click, not just the specific product being advertised. That means the reported PPC revenue overstates the actual return on the specific campaign, which makes break-even and profit calculations harder to do accurately without third-party tooling.

What is a good Amazon FBA profit margin?

A healthy Amazon FBA net profit margin after all hidden fees, returns, and PPC is typically 15-25% of revenue. Anything below 10% leaves you dangerously exposed to fee increases, return-rate spikes, or PPC cost inflation. If your product cannot support a 10%+ buffer after realistic returns and fees, the SKU is not a viable long-term business.

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457: Exactly How I’d Build A New Ecommerce Business Today From Scratch – Family First Friday

457: Exactly How I'd Build A New Ecommerce Business Today From Scratch

If I were starting a new ecommerce business from scratch today, I would skip drop shipping, retail arbitrage, and Amazon wholesale entirely and build a private label brand in nine steps: pick a business model, find a product, source a supplier, validate demand, test on Amazon, launch my own website, install email and SMS flows, layer in content plus paid ads, then nurture my best repeat customers. Drop shipping and wholesale have been squeezed to almost nothing by Amazon, and the only ecommerce model with real staying power in the current landscape is owning your own brand.

This is a Family First Friday solo episode of the My Wife Quit Her Job podcast, where I walk through the exact playbook I would follow today. It is the same 9-step system I have used to run Bumblebee Linens for 17 years and to coach more than 5,000 students inside my Create A Profitable Online Store course.

Here is the full plan, in the exact order you should execute it, plus the specific tools and margin targets I would use at each step.

Key takeaways

  • Private label is the only ecommerce model with long-term staying power right now. Drop shipping and wholesale have both been gutted because Amazon owns over 50% of ecommerce, so brands would rather sell direct than hand a retailer a 50% margin.
  • Target at least a 66% gross margin on private label. If you sell an item for $9, you should keep $6 after cost of goods, or the model does not survive shipping, ads, and returns.
  • Validate on Amazon first, even if your endgame is your own site. Amazon is the fastest way to prove real demand and generate cash flow while you build your brand website.
  • Install four automated email flows on day one: abandoned cart, pre-purchase nurture, post-purchase, and win-back. Email is the retention engine for the 98% of visitors who do not buy on their first visit.
  • Attack customer acquisition on three fronts: content for free traffic, paid ads for immediate sales, and a repeat-customer program for lifetime value. My blog and SEO alone drive about 25% of Bumblebee Linens’ sales for free.

Which ecommerce business model should you choose in 2026?

The only ecommerce business model I would choose today is private label, because it is the one model where you own the brand, the customer, and the margin. Drop shipping, retail arbitrage, and Amazon wholesale can all generate short-term cash, but none of them build an asset you can grow or sell.

Drop shipping used to work because brands wanted extra distribution without hiring a sales force. Today, Amazon owns more than 50% of ecommerce and any brand can list on it themselves, so there is no reason to give a drop shipper a 50% discount and hand over fulfillment.

Wholesale has the same problem in reverse. If you are reselling somebody else’s product, every other reseller sells the exact same SKU, and prices race to the bottom on Amazon within weeks.

Private label flips the equation. You control the product, the packaging, the price, and the customer relationship, and no one else can undercut a listing that only exists under your brand. Drop shipping or wholesale is fine as a stepping stone to fund your first private label order, but treat it as scaffolding, not the building.

Step 1: Find a private label product to sell

To find a private label product to sell, start with a problem you or someone close to you actually has, then go find the product that solves it. Products born from a real, felt problem almost always have a market, because at minimum you are one of the buyers.

We started selling handkerchiefs at Bumblebee Linens because my wife could not find plain white hankies for our wedding. My friend Amanda Wittenborn now makes millions selling custom-designed party supplies because that is what she is good at. Another friend, Rob, sells drone remote attachments because he is obsessed with drones.

If nothing obvious comes to mind, run product research on Amazon with a tool like Jungle Scout to spot categories with high demand and low competition. Cross-check search demand on Google with Ahrefs, and see what is selling on eBay with Terapeak. Combine those three data sources and you can validate a niche before you spend a dollar on inventory.

Step 2: Find a supplier and hit a 66% gross margin

Find a supplier who can deliver your product at a landed cost that leaves you at least a 66% gross margin, or the private label math does not work. That means selling at roughly 3x your all-in product cost, so a $3 unit needs to sell for at least $9.

There are three reliable ways to find that supplier. Search Alibaba and filter by location, price, and certifications, or attend trade shows in your product category (I used to go to the Canton Fair every other year before COVID). You can also hire a sourcing agent who already has vetted factory relationships and can shortcut months of back-and-forth for a fee.

Before you place a real order, request samples and confirm quality against a written spec. Nail down minimum order quantity, unit price, delivery timelines, payment terms, and an agreed defect ratio (we require under 3% defects on our linens).

Once you settle on a supplier, keep the communication channel warm. We keep every factory contact on WhatsApp or WeChat so we can get answers in hours instead of days.

Step 3: Validate your product before you place a big inventory order

Validate your product by trying to sell your first samples before you sink money into a full container of inventory. The goal at this stage is proof that strangers will pay you, not revenue.

The cheapest validation channels are Facebook groups, eBay, Amazon, and Etsy. Join groups in your niche and start conversations, then softly introduce your product. When we started with wedding handkerchiefs, I asked in bridal forums where I could find monogrammed hankies, then followed up later saying I had bought extras and would sell them.

List a handful of samples on eBay or Amazon and watch what happens. Test different price points, capture the buyer feedback, and use it to refine the product spec, packaging, or copy before you commit to your first large purchase order.

If nobody buys at any price, that is not a marketing problem. That is a signal to pick a different product.

Step 4: List your product on Amazon first

List your product on Amazon before you build your own website, because Amazon has more than 50% of the ecommerce market and the fastest built-in buyer traffic in the world. It is the quickest way to generate real sales, real reviews, and real cash flow while you are still designing your brand site.

Open a professional Amazon seller account, then build a clean listing that follows Amazon’s guidelines. Optimize the title, five bullets, and description with the exact keywords your buyers type, invest in high-quality photography, and price competitively against the top-ranking listings.

Then run Amazon PPC on relevant keywords. Sponsored Products will get your listing onto page one for buyers who are ready to purchase, which is the fastest way to seed early sales and reviews. Once you have velocity, you can scale ad spend and add Sponsored Brands and Sponsored Display on top.

Amazon is competitive and the fees are steep, so treat it as a validation and cash-flow engine, not the finish line. Use the profits to fund the next step.

Step 5: Launch your own ecommerce website on the right platform

Launch your own ecommerce website as soon as your Amazon test sells through, because your own site is the only property you fully own. Amazon can suspend an account overnight. A branded website you control cannot be taken away.

Pick the platform that matches your budget and technical comfort:

  • Shopify. The easiest, most supported, and by far the largest third-party app ecosystem. Best default choice if you are not technical and can afford the monthly fees plus apps.
  • Shift4Shop or WooCommerce. Free to use and just as powerful, at the cost of a steeper learning curve. Good option on a tight budget or if you want full control.
  • BigCommerce. Shopify-like experience without the app-nickel-and-dime problem, because most of what you need is built in.

Once the platform is picked, put your value proposition and differentiator above the fold on every page, so a first-time visitor knows in three seconds why they should buy from you instead of a competitor. Build clean product pages, real category pages, transparent shipping and returns, and a checkout that works on mobile.

The point of your own site is control: control of the brand, the customer data, the pricing, and the long-term relationship. Everything after this step compounds on top of that ownership.

Step 6: Set up email and SMS marketing on day one

Set up email and SMS marketing on day one, because the average ecommerce conversion rate is about 2%, which means 98% of your visitors leave without buying. Email and SMS give you a second, third, and tenth chance to convert them.

Install these four automated email flows on launch:

  • Abandoned cart. Triggered when a shopper adds to cart and leaves. A three-email sequence with a reminder, social proof, and a small incentive typically recovers 10 to 15% of lost carts.
  • Pre-purchase nurture. Sent to leads who signed up but have not yet bought. Educates them on your product, your story, and why to trust you.
  • Post-purchase. Thanks the buyer, sets shipping expectations, and asks for a review at the right moment.
  • Win-back. Fires for lapsed customers who have not bought in 60 to 120 days, with a targeted offer to bring them back.

To feed those flows, run an email sign-up popup with a lead magnet: a percentage-off code, a free shipping offer, or a useful guide. Layer SMS on top for time-sensitive messages, because texts get read in minutes and drive the fastest response of any channel. I use Klaviyo for email and Postscript for SMS on Bumblebee Linens.

Step 7: Create content for free organic ecommerce traffic

Create content on a channel your target buyer already uses, because content is the cheapest source of long-term ecommerce traffic. Content compounds: a blog post or YouTube video published today can still send buyers to your store five years from now.

Pick one primary content channel and commit to a consistent publishing schedule:

  • Blog and SEO. Write buyer-intent content on your own domain. Our blog and SEO drive about 25% of Bumblebee Linens’ sales for free.
  • YouTube. Publish long-form videos in your category. My channel at MyWifeQuitHerJob earns around $300,000 a year in AdSense on top of the store and course traffic it drives.
  • Podcast. Build authority in a niche where audio thrives. This podcast is a top-25 marketing show on Apple Podcasts, and you are listening to it right now.
  • Social media. Post to Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, or X for reach and community if your product is visual.

Consistency beats format. One post or video a week for two years will out-perform ten posts a month for two months. Attach a clear call to action in every piece so the traffic converts into email subscribers and customers instead of drifting away.

Step 8: Layer in paid advertising for immediate sales

Layer in paid advertising to generate immediate sales while your content compounds, because content is slow and ads are fast. The right platform depends on where your buyer’s intent already lives.

Facebook and Instagram ads work best when you have to create the demand. Target by interest, behavior, and lookalike audiences of your existing customers, then push cold traffic to a landing page built for conversion, not to a generic homepage.

Google Ads works best when the buyer already knows they need your product and is searching for it. Bid on high-intent keywords, mirror those keywords in your headlines, and send clicks to a matching landing page.

Amazon Ads should keep running throughout, because a lot of your future customers still start their product research on Amazon regardless of where they end up buying. Track your CAC and payback period on every channel and cut the ones that never break even. Paid ads are a scalable engine only when the math works.

Step 9: Focus on your best repeat customers

Focus on your best repeat customers, because it is far cheaper to sell to someone who has already bought than to acquire a new customer. Repeat business is where ecommerce margin actually comes from once ads and content have done their job.

Identify your best customers by lifetime value, purchase frequency, and average order value. The top 5 to 10% of buyers usually generate a disproportionate share of revenue, and those are the ones you should invest personal attention in.

Here is what we do at Bumblebee Linens. We call our biggest customers personally, give them a permanent discount code they can use anytime, and assign a dedicated rep to handle their orders. Most of them are wedding and event planners who buy in bulk, and that group of maybe a hundred people drives a huge share of our repeat volume.

You can also spin up a private Facebook group for your best customers to give feedback and vote on new products. That builds loyalty and improves your product roadmap at the same time. Every extra dollar of lifetime value drops straight to the bottom line.

Frequently asked questions

How much money do you need to start a private label ecommerce business?

Plan for roughly $2,000 to $5,000 to start a private label ecommerce business the way I would run it today. That budget covers a small first inventory order (usually $500 to $2,000), samples from two or three suppliers, a Shopify subscription for the first few months, and a small Amazon PPC budget to seed sales while you validate demand.

Is drop shipping still worth it in 2026?

Drop shipping is no longer worth it as a long-term ecommerce business model in 2026 because Amazon has captured more than 50% of ecommerce and brands would rather sell direct on Amazon than pay a drop shipper. It can still work as a short-term stepping stone to fund your first private label inventory order, but do not build it into a permanent business.

Should I sell on Amazon or my own website first?

Sell on Amazon first to validate demand and generate cash flow, then move to your own website as fast as possible to own the brand and the customer. Amazon has the fastest buyer traffic in ecommerce, but only your own website gives you the customer data, the margin, and the long-term asset value.

What gross margin do I need for private label ecommerce?

Target at least a 66% gross margin on private label, which is roughly a 3x markup over your landed cost of goods. That margin is what covers shipping, ads, returns, platform fees, and still leaves enough net profit to reinvest in growth and pay yourself.

What is the fastest way to find a profitable product to sell?

The fastest way to find a profitable product to sell is to look at your own real-life problems first, then use a research tool like Jungle Scout to gauge Amazon demand and Ahrefs to check Google search volume. If a product solves a real problem, has verified demand on Amazon, and has consistent search interest, it is worth ordering samples.

How long does it take to build a profitable ecommerce business?

Expect one to three years to build a genuinely profitable ecommerce business from scratch, based on my own store and thousands of students I have coached. Most students see first sales within one to three months, break-even within six to twelve months, and start pulling meaningful profit around year two once repeat customers and content start compounding.

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