Recently my buddy Andrew Youderian announced that he’s selling his successful dropshipped online store, TrollingMotors.net. Now normally someone selling their website isn’t a big deal. But what is really unique about Andrew’s sale is that he’s selling it all by himself without a broker via a dutch auction on his blog.
Therefore all of his financials, his costs, his revenues, his profits, you name it…everything is completely out there in the open for everyone to see. Here’s a link to his post if you want to check it out.
Anyways, it’s extremely rare to find an online store owner who is willing to share every last detail about his online store publicly without an NDA, so I wanted to take this opportunity to make some comparisons between Andrew’s store and my own online store.
Specifically, I’m going to compare my experiences running an ecommerce store that carries inventory imported from overseas vs one that follows a dropshipping business model.
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The Financials For TrollingMotors.net
First off, I want to thank Andrew for his transparency and for having the guts to put himself out there online. I’ve known Andrew for a while now and he’s a great guy and extremely intelligent. And if you take the time to read the prospectus for his online store, you’ll come to realize that he’s been doing a fantastic job running TrollingMotors.net.
Anyways, since I’m going to be commenting about some of his numbers, here’s a snippet of his financials for reference. Let’s take a look shall we?
Note: All of this information is freely available on his blog post linked above.
Operating Margins
The first thing that jumped out to me about his online store was that his margins were pretty low. Now low margins are to be expected with any dropshipped store, however a 11.7% gross margin was still a little lower than I had anticipated.
The good thing however, is that his average order size is quite large so he still makes a pretty decent amount of money from each sale despite the low margins.
In my online store course, I tell my students that the margins from dropshipping tend to be no higher than 30% depending on the vendor and what you are selling. Big ticket items such as trolling motors tend to have lower margins whereas smaller accessories tend to have much higher ones.
But overall, the margins from dropshipping are always going to be lower because you don’t have to bear the burden of carrying inventory or shipping product.
Now if you take a look at our online store, our margins are many times higher because we carry inventory and we import all of our products from overseas. In addition, we design some of our own products as well. The lowest margin item we carry is at 50% and almost everything else is in the high double digits.
As a result, our revenues don’t have to be nearly as high in order to make an equivalent profit. Andrew’s shop is slated to make about $65,000 in gross profit this year based on about $625,000 in revenues.
If you were to assume 50% gross margins for a shop with inventory, you would only have to sell $130,000 worth of goods to make the same level of profit.
The other big negative about having low margins is that every little fee takes out a big percentage of your overall profit. Because fees like credit card processing are charged based on your revenues and not your profit, a 3% credit card transaction fee is a much bigger deal when you are making an 11% margin than when you are making an 80% margin.
Operational Logistics
Of course, the big advantage of dropshipping is that you don’t have to carry any inventory or ship any product. As a result, you can run a dropshipped store from practically anywhere in the world.
With our online store, my wife and I could still technically be location independent but we would need to rely heavily on our employees to keep the business running smoothly. In addition, we would still have to worry about importing goods, dealing with vendors and shipping product.
In general, this isn’t a realistic scenario given the amount of logistical work it requires to run a store with a warehouse. We are not at that stage yet where we can simply let go of the reins.
Anyways, I just wanted to make a few comments about the costs of carrying inventory that some people don’t necessarily think about. As you continue to make sales with your store, you also have to constantly replenish your stock of goods.
So from a cash flow perspective, things aren’t always rainbows and sunshine in the beginning. In fact early on, my wife and I often felt like we were spending all of our hard earned profits on new inventory.
And if you factor in the bulk purchases we had to make from overseas, it felt as though we were just treading water at times. But the beauty of carrying inventory is that once you hit that steady state, the profit margins can not be beat.
But overall, the dropshipped model is far superior from an operations standpoint. I can just picture Andrew kicking back and sipping a margarita while sales roll in:)
Operational Costs
TrollingMotors.net employs one specialist to answer phone calls and to take orders. Their phone lines are only open from 8:30 am to 12:30 pm MST Monday through Friday.
For our store, we have a warehouse plus 2 full time employees to pack and ship orders. In addition, we run our phone lines from 10 am to 5 pm. So it’s probably safe to say that we have higher overhead costs than TrollingMotors.net.
However, one thing that I do want to mention is that whoever is manning the support line for TrollingMotors.net probably needs to be extremely knowledgeable about the product.
It takes a special person to know the ins and outs of trolling motors and it sounds as though Andrew’s person is someone pretty special. This is further evidenced by the fact that roughly
20% of orders are obtained over the phone.
If you look at our wedding linens store, our products pretty much sell themselves via the website with very few questions asked that can’t be answered with our online FAQ. Therefore, I’m fairly confident that selling a thousand dollar trolling motor requires more support and sales work than selling handkerchiefs.
Anyways, if you were to assume that Pat (the only TrollingMotors employee) were to work full time, then his salary would be in the same ball park as our overall employee expenses due to the level of expertise required. But again, this is simply due to the nature of our different niches.
In general, having to carry inventory and ship product will almost always come at a higher overhead cost.
Profit Velocity
I touched on this a little bit already but the beauty of carrying inventory is that the margins are much higher and there’s a much higher ramp up to profitability.
In other words, I have to sell far less in order to make much more. Back when we needed to make 100K a year so my wife could quit her job, there was no way that it would have happened if we decided to go the dropshipping route.
If you look at TrollingMotors.net, Andrew made $88K in revenues his first year which is pretty damn good. But he only ended up pocketing $7800 in profits.
Back when we first started and there was zero competition, our margins were well into the 80s and 90s. As a result, given the same amount of sales as TrollingMotors.net in the first year, we would have pocketed between 70K to 79K in profit.
Carrying inventory is great if you want a much faster ramp up to profitability, but the hands off nature of dropshipping is extremely attractive from an operational standpoint.
Barriers To Entry
The final thing I wanted to touch on is barriers to entry. How hard is it for someone else to copy our respective online stores? In general when you go the dropship route, there are likely to be many other stores that carry the exact same products as you do.
Andrew has done an awesome job with his online store. TrollingMotors.net provides an incredible amount of valuable content that pretty much covers everything you need to know about a trolling motor before you buy. As a result, Andrew differentiates his store from the competition through his superior content and tutorials.
For our store, we also offer pretty good content. But in addition to great posts and tutorials, it’s also a little harder to copy our store because we import our products in bulk from overseas.
Now I’m not saying that it’s hard or impossible, but having to deal with different cultures, language barriers, large cash outlays and quality control is something that most people probably don’t want to deal with when starting out.
Basically what I’m trying to say is that carrying imported inventory has a higher barrier to entry than a dropshipped store in general. Most people do not want to deal with the extra hassle.
Dropshipping Or Inventory?
Anyways, I hope you found this comparison useful. As you can tell, there are many criteria that you need to consider before you decide on an online store business model and each has its own pros and cons.
If I were to create an online store today, I would probably opt for the dropshipping model because I don’t really need a fast ramp up to profitability. Also, I don’t really have the desire to open yet another warehouse:)
What’s hilarious is that Andrew has the complete opposite view. His next venture will involve carrying inventory and/or designing his own products. Overall, both models work. You just have to figure out what your end goal is.
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Great article. Thank you for comparing the two business models….You definitely outlined the pros and cons of each.
Thanks Natashia
Regardless a drop shipping business like Andrew’s would certainly change my life. The supplier I am talking/negotiating with is only offering me a 15% margin on every product I sell. However if I can get a store up and running and get interest maybe other suppliers will want me to sell there products on it as well.
Mitesh,
There is very low monetary risk with dropshipping so I would give it a try. If anything, you will learn a heck of a lot in the process.
Steve, I asked Andrew about his numbers for advertising, SEO etc his first year, as they were pretty high. Wondering how your expenses in those areas compare.
Carole
Hi Carole,
I have never spent a dime on SEO. Andrew hired a firm which is why he had such a high expense. As for PPC advertising, in general you need higher margins to make PPC profitable. That being said, we spend way more on PPC than Andrew does because it’s a big money maker for us.
So, did you put in a bid, Steve? 🙂
I would consider it if I knew anything about trolling motors.
What to you think of doing both in the same site? I’m drop shipping now but I want to eventually import from over seas.
You could definitely do both and lots of people do that. You can dropship to fill out your store but then carry inventory for your best selling goods.
Love your shower curtains so amazing, pinned it and also started following your Gimp board, love Gimp, but a bit difficult to figure out.
And and always great information Steve, thanks.
Thanks for the article. It’s interesting to see the ins and outs of other businesses, especially ones with tangible products.
I run an online travel agency and our gross profit margins generally range from 15%-30%, depending on if we use a supplier or work direct with a hotel, what sort of contract the hotel gives, and how many competitors there are for the hotel.
I agree with the credit card fees — those are brutal. We have a 2.24% base rate, but after all the junk fees are added on, we average close to 3%. For the lower margin hotels, that can be 20% of our commission. Ouch.
Time to pop over to Andrew’s site and check out all the details!
Hey Travis,
Would love to see your travel agency. Post a link in the comments so I can take a look. And check out Andrew’s post too. He definitely runs his business the right way.
Hi Steve,
Why SEMRUSH is showing about 500 visitors per month for TrollingMotors.net
and he is claiming about 500 per day.
Am I missing something?
You can’t depend on semrush for accurate traffic data. It is just an estimate and often grossly wrong
Hi Steve,
Thank you for posting this as I have been going back and forth with Dropshipping or holding inventory. I want to start a party supply business (and yes there are tons of them out there) but I keep tripping over myself and cant decide the best route. This info was very helpful however there is a big difference in what the two of you are selling vs just the financials. So I can see why he went with dropshipping. But I like what you mentioned about only keeping inventory on your best seller and dropshipping others. Can you tell me what you think of Shopify for a site/cart/hosting?
Thanks!
Fantastic post Steve and gives me great food for thought when I start my online business. thanks so much for the information
Great write-up, Steve! Appreciate you highlighting my store on your blog, and loved the contrast between our two approaches.
I think it’s funny that after both trying our individual approaches, we’re each inclined to try the opposite sourcing method next: drop shippings vs. stocking goods. The grass is always greener, right? 🙂
Thanks again, Steve.
Loved this article…it provided an awesome view into the advantages/disadvantages of both models. I tend to like the drop-ship model primarily because of the freedom it provides. I’m not a big fan of hiring employees and I want to be able to go where I want, when I want.
I don’t need a huge income anymore (not that I wouldn’t welcome it!) so flexibility and freedom would be my drivers.
Thanks to both of you for the great insight!
Steve,
I just wanted to preface this reply with: My site is in development and ready to launch early 2013. I went the route you ALMOST went when you first began; baby clothing. You were concerned with importing baby clothing that didn’t conform with the recently changing CPSC regulations. At the time I’m sure it was an issue, but now it’s almost hard to find an importer that doesn’t conform with these regulations. MY PURPOSE of this reply: Can you please show your financials in the same format that you did for Andrew? I’m very curious to see where all of your expenses lay, as I will have a very similar business model approach that you do. You can email me, reply to this, or even post a new blog about it! I’d love to see a thorough breakdown of everything.
Thanks again for all the great content you provide on your blog. I read every blog you write!
Fascinating article, I don’t think I’ve come across a website sale of this kind before.
Forgive me, didn’t notice you cover this in your piece but Andrew has booked a cost or $0 for SEO in 2013. Wouldn’t that be classed as a barrier to entry too? Perhaps, in a worst case scenario, a barrier to sale as well?
If SEO cost is 0 am I right in assuming Andrew has been doing all the work himself? If so, he clearly knows what he is doing.
Of course, anyone can learn SEO, but it takes time and generally results in a few mistakes along the way, some costly.
As I say, forgive me if I’m reading this wrong.
Good morning Steve. This is a good article. Can you tell me what you think of Shopify for a site/cart/hosting?
Is it possible to do both? Certain items will be dropshipping and certain items I would actually have an inventory. I just want to know if it’s possible to do both in one website/online store?